Calculating Revolutions of a Ball Dropped from a Ramp

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a ball released from rest that rolls down a ramp and subsequently drops off a table. Participants are exploring how to calculate the number of revolutions the ball makes during its fall, given known parameters such as the ball's diameter, the height of the ramp, and the height of the table.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of angular velocity, linear velocity, and centripetal acceleration. There are questions about the effects of external torques once the ball leaves the ramp and how these relate to the ball's motion during the fall.

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Some participants have provided calculations for kinetic energy and moment of inertia, while others express uncertainty about their preliminary calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to connect these calculations to determine the number of revolutions made by the ball during its fall.

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Participants are working under the assumption that there are no external torques acting on the ball after it leaves the ramp, and they are questioning the implications of this assumption on the ball's angular velocity.

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If I have a ball/sphere is released from rest, rolls (without slipping) down a ramp, then drops from the table the ramp is on, how many revolutions does the ball make during the fall?

The diameter of the ball, height of the ramp, and height of the table are known. And I calculated the horizontal distance the ball travels before landing correctly. I think I calculated the w, v, and centripetal acceleration correctly. But I am not sure how to solve for the number of revolutions the ball makes before falling on the ground. This problem is probably relatively simple, but I might be having issues with it from looking at it for so long and confusing myself. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
 
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smilingsteph said:
If I have a ball/sphere is released from rest, rolls (without slipping) down a ramp, then drops from the table the ramp is on, how many revolutions does the ball make during the fall?

The diameter of the ball, height of the ramp, and height of the table are known. And I calculated the horizontal distance the ball travels before landing correctly. I think I calculated the w, v, and centripetal acceleration correctly. But I am not sure how to solve for the number of revolutions the ball makes before falling on the ground. This problem is probably relatively simple, but I might be having issues with it from looking at it for so long and confusing myself. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
Once the ball has left the ramp, are there any external torques acting on the ball?
 
to my knowledge no.

cylinder:
m= 1.8kg
r= 0.12m
l= 0.50m

ramp:
h= 0.6m
l= 5.0m

"A cylinder is released from rest at the top of a ramp and allowed to roll without slipping. What is the rotational kinetic energy?"

I already correctly solved that the total kinetic energy at the bottom of the ramp is 10.59J.
 
smilingsteph said:
to my knowledge no.

cylinder:
m= 1.8kg
r= 0.12m
l= 0.50m

ramp:
h= 0.6m
l= 5.0m

"A cylinder is released from rest at the top of a ramp and allowed to roll without slipping. What is the rotational kinetic energy?"

I already correctly solved that the total kinetic energy at the bottom of the ramp is 10.59J.
You are indeed correct, if we ignore drag then the only force acting on the sphere is it's weight, which acts through it's centre. So if the net torque is zero after the ball has left the ramp, what can you say about the angular velocity?
 
w=18.08314 and I=0.03888 and v=2.1699768.

i keep getting that the rotational kinetic energy is ~4.23, but it keeps coming up as incorrect. are any of my preliminary calculations incorrect? but i'd have know correctly, w, v, and I to solve for the distance (which i know is correct). so I'm not sure what I am doing wrong after i solve for w, I, and v.
 
smilingsteph said:
w=18.08314 and I=0.03888 and v=2.1699768.

i keep getting that the rotational kinetic energy is ~4.23, but it keeps coming up as incorrect. are any of my preliminary calculations incorrect? but i'd have know correctly, w, v, and I to solve for the distance (which i know is correct). so I'm not sure what I am doing wrong after i solve for w, I, and v.
You may want to recheck your moment of inertia calculation.
 
so i rechecked my calculations and still get the moment of inertia. how do i go from there though to solve for the number of rotations in the fall?
 

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