Calculating Speed of a Moving Block with Friction and Pulley System

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The problem involves calculating the speed of a block in a pulley system with friction. The setup includes two blocks, one on an inclined plane and the other hanging, with specific masses, angles, and a coefficient of kinetic friction provided.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on both blocks, including gravitational force, friction, and the net force in the x-direction. There are attempts to calculate acceleration and questions about the correct application of Newton's laws and the role of mass in the equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering calculations and questioning the assumptions regarding forces and mass. Some guidance has been provided regarding unit conversion and the application of Newton's second law, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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Participants note the need to convert mass from grams to kilograms and clarify the components of forces acting in different directions. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the total mass and acceleration in the equations being used.

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1. Homework Statement
A block of mass m1 = 280 g is at rest on a plane that makes an angle θ = 30° above the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the plane is μk = 0.10. The block is attached to a second block of mass m2 = 220 g that hangs freely by a string that passes over a frictionless and massless pulley. Find its speed when the second block has fallen 30.0 cm.
cm/s



2. The attempt at a solution

Mass 1 Mass 2
Fground=280*9.81=2746.8 N Fm2 ground=220*9.81=2158.2 N
Fgy=Fgcos(30)
=433.714 N
Fgx=Fgsin(30)
=250.405 N
Fkinetics=(.1)*(250.405)
=25.04 N
Fx= 250.405-25.04= 225.36N

Fx=max
225.36=280*ax
ax=.805 m/s2

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could please help!

Thank you!
 
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Fkinetics=(.1)*(250.405)
=25.04 N
friction = normal force x coefficient of friction, and the normal force is not equal to the force on x-direction.

Fx=max
225.36=280*ax
ax=.805 m/s2

There are total 3 forces on the x-direction. You are one less
 
So in the x direction I have...

For the second mass the Fg=2158.2N

and on the first mass Fgx=250.405 N
and friction which= 433.714*.1=43.37 N

Would it be:

2158.2+250.405-43.7=max

2364.905=280ax

or is "m" both of the masses and acceleration is squared?
 
Hi dragonladies

You have to convert the mass to kg first.

dragonladies1 said:
So in the x direction I have...

For the second mass the Fg=2158.2N
The second mass doesn't have component on x-direction, only y-direction

and on the first mass Fgx=250.405 N

and friction which= 433.714*.1=43.37 N
Don't know how you got his value..

After you find the force components and friction, set the equation using Newton's second law then find acceleration. Finally,use kinematics to find the speed.
 

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