Calculating Speed of a Rolling Cart with Added Mass and Running Man

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a 1000 kg cart rolling at 1.70 m/s when a 70 kg man runs to the left at 7.00 m/s relative to the cart. Participants emphasize using conservation of momentum to solve the problem, noting that the initial momentum of the system is 1700 kg·m/s. When the man runs, his momentum changes, affecting the total momentum of the cart-man system. The final speed of the cart after the man starts running is calculated to be approximately 2.05 m/s to the right, with some confusion about whether to include the man's initial momentum in the total. The consensus is that the initial momentum should account for both the cart and the man.
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A 1000 kg cart is rolling to the right at 1.70m/s . A 70.0 kg man is standing on the right end of the cart.What is the speed of the cart if the man suddenly starts running to the left with a speed of 7.00 m/s relative to the cart?


really boggles my mind, should i be using

=(m1 +m2)Vf - m1(Vi)/m2
or what's going on?!
 
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(m1+m2)vb=m1*v1a+m2*v2a
we put the positive direction as right
(m1+m2)vb/m1-m2*v2a/m1=v1a

Im not sure how you define the masses but i think you missed (m1 +m2)Vf/!m2!
 
Conservation of momentum. Initially, the 1000kg cart is rolling to the rightare 1.7 m/s while the man is standing still, so the total momentum is (mass)(velocity) 1700 kgm/s.

Let v be the speed of the cart after the man starts running. When the man (mass 70.0 kg) runs to the right at 7.00 m/s, relative to the cart, his speed relative to the ground is v- 7 and so his momentum, relative to the ground, is 70(v- 7)= 70v- 490 kgm/s. The momentum of the cart is 1000v and so the total momentum is now
1070v- 490 . By conservation of momentum, that must be
1070v- 490= 1700=> 1070v= 2190 so v= 2190/1070= 2.05 m/s to the right.
 
Isn't the initial momentum a result of the mass of both the cart and the man, 1070 x1.7 or 1819 to the right ? If so, leads to 2.15 m/s
 
regor60 said:
Isn't the initial momentum a result of the mass of both the cart and the man, 1070 x1.7 or 1819 to the right ?
Yes, the initial momentum must include the man moving with the cart.
 
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