Calculating Speed of Sound with a Resonating Tube

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of sound using a closed-end resonating tube. The original poster presents a specific scenario involving a 15.7 cm tube and a frequency of 550 Hz, while also referencing relevant equations for sound speed and wavelength.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate equations for calculating the speed of sound in a closed-end tube, questioning the relevance of temperature and the length of the tube. There is exploration of the relationship between wavelength and tube length, particularly in the context of harmonics.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify the correct approach to the problem, with some participants suggesting the use of specific equations related to closed-end tubes. There is acknowledgment of the relationship between wavelength and tube length, but no consensus on the final method has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of temperature information and discuss assumptions regarding standard conditions. The original poster's confusion about the relevance of the tube's length in the calculations is also highlighted.

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Homework Statement



A 15.7cm long, closed-end tube, filled with air, resonates when exposed to sound waves with a frequency of 550hz. Calculate the speed of sound.

Homework Equations



V=331.4 + 0.6*Temp.C
V=wavelength*frequency
V=d/t


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm thinking I need to use V=331.4 + 0.6*Temp.C to find the velocity, though temperature is not given I think my teacher told me you can assume it is 20 degrees C if temperature is not given. Is that right? However, that doesn't explain why they gave you the length, so maybe that's not the equation I should even use.
 
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Well do you know the equation for the wavelength in a closed-end tube?

The first harmonic is given by [itex]\frac{\lambda}{4}=L[/itex]
 
mmm I don't think so, I wasn't aware there there was a separate wavelength equation for closed-end tube things. I thought you could use v=wavelength*frequency or velocity= wavelength/T for all of them.
 
No, this is not the equation you should be using. You should be using [tex]v = f \lambda[/tex]. You can solve for the wavelength by converting the length into metres, and then multiplyin it by four. Then plug in wavelength and frequency into the equation and you will get the speed.
 
KatieLynn said:
mmm I don't think so, I wasn't aware there there was a separate wavelength equation for closed-end tube things. I thought you could use v=wavelength*frequency or velocity= wavelength/T for all of them.

You need to use the one I posted. But research Standing waves in pipes and they will show you how to get the equations.
 
Ohh! I kind of remember him saying something about that now, isn't it like you multiply it by 4 because its 1/4 the of the length of the wave or something? So, anyway, here's what I did...

15.7cm=0.157m
0.157m*4=.628=wavelength

v=(550hz)(.628)
v=345.4m/s

Correct?
 
Yep 1/4 of the wavelength.

Yes that is correct.
 
thank you :)
 

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