Calculating support reactions in a beam

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The discussion revolves around calculating support reactions in a beam under various loads, focusing on the application of equilibrium equations and moment calculations. Participants are working through a homework problem involving static equilibrium, specifically the summation of vertical forces and moments about a point.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an initial attempt at calculating support reactions using the equations of equilibrium, specifically ƩFy = 0 and ƩMA = 0.
  • Another participant questions the identification of support types (pin and roller) based on a missing picture.
  • A participant points out a mistake in calculating the moment of the uniformly distributed load (UDL), suggesting that the resultant force should be considered at its centroid rather than adding distances unnecessarily.
  • Clarification is provided regarding the moment calculation for the UDL, emphasizing that the resultant force acts at the center of the load's length.
  • Participants confirm the correct moment calculation for the UDL as 40kN(2m), with the moment acting clockwise.
  • One participant summarizes the corrected summation of moments about point A, incorporating feedback from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is a general agreement on the correct approach to calculating moments and forces after some initial confusion. However, the discussion reflects a process of refinement rather than a definitive resolution, as participants clarify and correct each other's calculations.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the beam's loading conditions and support types are not explicitly stated, and the discussion relies on the participants' interpretations of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


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Trying to calculate the support reactions here.

Homework Equations


ƩFy = 0
ƩMA = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



Well I've come up with the first equation (I assume two are needed to solve for both support reactions from the above equations).

ƩFy = 0

RA + RB (up) = 10kN + 10kN + 4(10kN) (down)

RA + RB = 60kN

Not too sure how to go about calculating the sum of the moments in this case. But here's an attempt, I may be completely wrong! But then again that's why I'm here.

ƩMA = 0

Taking moments about A in a positive clockwise direction:

(4+2+2)(10kN) + (4+2)(10kN) (clockwise+) = 4(10kN)(4 + 4/2) + 4RB (counter clockwise-)

(8)(10kN) + (6)(10kN) - 4(10kN)(4 + 4/2) - 4RB = 0

4/2 is the centroid of the uniformly distributed load 10kN

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks all.
 
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Is A the pin support and B the roller support? I don't see it on picture
 
Blugga said:
Is A the pin support and B the roller support? I don't see it on picture

Yep!
 
Your mistake is where you take the moment of the uniformly distributed load.

You have "4(10kN)(4 + 4/2)" for the moment of the uniformly distributed load.
You're right that the resultant force from the 10kN/m load will be 4*10 because the load is acting on the 4 meter length. This resultant force is now 40KN at the center of that length (which is 2m). So as you know, the moment will be the resultant force multiplied by the distance to point A. So you don't need to add the original distance, just where the resultant force is acting.

Edit: Also, the moment from the resultant force acts clockwise(+) because it points down and is to the right of A
 
Blugga said:
Your mistake is where you take the moment of the uniformly distributed load.

You have "4(10kN)(4 + 4/2)" for the moment of the uniformly distributed load.
You're right that the resultant force from the 10kN/m load will be 4*10 because the load is acting on the 4 meter length. This resultant force is now 40KN at the center of that length (which is 2m). So as you know, the moment will be the resultant force multiplied by the distance to point A. So you don't need to add the original distance, just where the resultant force is acting.

Edit: Also, the moment from the resultant force acts clockwise(+) because it points down and is to the right of A

Thanks Blugga!

So the moment for the UDL is 40kN(2m), 2m being the centroid of that section? I understand now.

Which is the moment from the resultant force?
 
Studious_stud said:
Thanks Blugga!

So the moment for the UDL is 40kN(2m), 2m being the centroid of that section? I understand now.

Yes it is, and it's clockwise.
 
Blugga said:
Yes it is, and it's clockwise.

Great. So just to clarify, the correct summing of moments about A is:

(8)(10kN) + (6)(10kN) + 40kN(2) - 4RB = 0

Thank you very much
 
Studious_stud said:
Great. So just to clarify, the correct summing of moments about A is:

(8)(10kN) + (6)(10kN) + 40kN(2) - 4RB = 0

Thank you very much

That's what I got. :smile:
 

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