Calculating Tension on a Ramp with Inclined Load and Friction

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The problem involves calculating the tension in a rope used to move a sack up a ramp inclined at 18 degrees, considering the effects of friction. The sack weighs 600 N, and the coefficient of friction is 0.3. The tension is to be determined for two scenarios: preventing the sack from sliding down and pulling it up at a steady speed.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the weight and angle to find the tension but questions their calculation, indicating a misunderstanding regarding the role of friction.

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Some participants have pointed out the oversight regarding friction, suggesting that it must be considered in the calculations. The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying the nature of static friction and its relevance to the problem.

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The original poster initially assumed that friction was negligible because the sack did not move, leading to confusion in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A sack of weight 600 N is being loaded on to a truck up a ramp inclined at 18o to the horizontal. A rope attached to the sack is held at an angle of 25o to the ramp. The coefficient of friction between the sack and the ramp is 0.3. What tension in the rope is needed:
a. To prevent the sack from sliding down the ramp.
b. To pull the sack up the ramp at a steady speed



Homework Equations


F = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


The manual wrote the answer for (a) is 18.2 N. I can't find it. My work for (a) :

W sin 18o = T cos 25o

T = 204.6 N

What am I missing ?

Thanks
 
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You have not taken into account the frictional force while calculating T.
 
Hi rl.bhat

Oh my god...I thought there is no friction because it didn't move. That was a very stupid mistake. Thanks a lot !
 
songoku said:
I thought there is no friction because it didn't move.

Of course there is - it's called static friction.
 

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