Calculating the electric field from the potential

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field from a given electric potential function, specifically V = 2.00xyz², at a specified point in three-dimensional space. The subject area is electromagnetism, focusing on the relationship between electric potential and electric field.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the meaning of the potential function and its dependence on multiple variables. There is a focus on understanding how to compute the electric field components using partial derivatives of the potential.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning their understanding of partial derivatives and how to apply them to find the electric field components. Some guidance has been offered regarding treating other variables as constants during differentiation, and there is an acknowledgment of differing results compared to a reference answer.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the potential function and the application of calculus concepts, particularly partial derivatives. Participants are navigating through these concepts without a clear resolution yet.

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Homework Statement



What is the magnitude of the electric field at the point (3.00\hat{i} - 2.00\hat{j} + 4.00\hat{k})m if the electric potential is given by V = 2.00xyz^2, where V is in volts and x, y, and z are in meters?

Homework Equations



To calculate the field from the potential, E_{s}=-\delta V/ \delta s (ie E=-dV/ds for each component).

The Attempt at a Solution



E_{x}=-dV_{x}/dx
E_{y}=-dV_{y}/dy
E_{z}=-dV_{z}/dz

I don't know what they mean by 2.00xyz^2.
 
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paralian said:
I don't know what they mean by 2.00xyz^2.

It is a function describing V. What is actually confusing you about it? Is it that it involves more than one variable?
 
G01 said:
It is a function describing V. What is actually confusing you about it? Is it that it involves more than one variable?

Haha...yes. It's probably something really simple. I just don't know what to do to find each component
 
O ok. Maybe it is the concept of the partial derivative that is confusing you?

For instance when you want to find the x component of the field you need to find:

\frac{\partial V}{\partial x}.

In this case, just think of y and z as constants. Similarly, think of x as constant when taking the derivatives with respect to the other variables.

Does this help?
 
G01 said:
O ok. Maybe it is the concept of the partial derivative that is confusing you?

For instance when you want to find the x component of the field you need to find:

\frac{\partial V}{\partial x}.

In this case, just think of y and z as constants. Similarly, think of x as constant when taking the derivatives with respect to the other variables.

Does this help?

2.00yz^2 \frac{\partial x}{\partial x}<br /> =2.00yz^2<br /> =-64

2.00xz^2 \frac{\partial y}{\partial y}<br /> =2.00xz^2<br /> =96

2.00xy \frac{\partial z^2}{\partial z}<br /> =2.00xyz<br /> =-48

\sqrt{64^2 + 96^2 + 48^2}<br /> =125

The answer in the back of the book is 150 N/C.
 
paralian said:
2.00xy \frac{\partial z^2}{\partial z}<br /> =2.00xyz<br /> =-48

\sqrt{64^2 + 96^2 + 48^2}<br /> =125

The answer in the back of the book is 150 N/C.

Hi paralian! :smile:

It should be 2.00xy \frac{\partial z^2}{\partial z}<br /> =4.00xyz\,.

That should give you 150.09. :smile:
 

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