Calculating the final temperature of a mixture when ice & water

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the final temperature of a mixture of ice and water, specifically involving 176 grams of ice at -10 degrees Celsius and 206 grams of water at 73.3 degrees Celsius. Participants explore the methodology for solving this thermal equilibrium problem, including the application of specific heat capacities and the heat of fusion.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines their approach using the specific heat capacities of water and ice, as well as the heat of fusion, but expresses difficulty in achieving a consistent answer.
  • Another participant suggests breaking the problem into stages, questioning whether the water has enough heat to bring the ice to melting and how much heat remains afterward.
  • A participant calculates the energy required to heat the ice to its melting point and the energy needed for melting, concluding that the energy available from the water is sufficient to melt the ice.
  • There is a correction regarding the total mass of the mixture, with one participant pointing out an error in the addition of the masses.
  • Participants discuss the residual heat available after melting the ice and how it relates to the final temperature of the mixture.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of calculation but have not reached a consensus on the accuracy of specific numerical values or the final temperature. There are corrections and clarifications regarding calculations, but no definitive resolution is presented.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations involve potential typographical errors, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the final temperature determination and the handling of energy transfers.

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Hello,

How do I calculate the following. The final temperature of a mixture of of ice and water. Where 176grams of ice at -10celsius mixes with 206 grams of water at 73.3celsius. I have tried this equation in multiple fashions and cannot seems to come to a consistent answer! Any help would be appreciated!

Why does the below not work?
water specific heat=4.184
ice specific heat= 2.11
heat of fusion=334

((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(∆temperature))+((mass ice)*(heat of fusion))+((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(x-0))=((specific Heat water)X(Mass water)x(∆temperature))

any help would be great appreciated

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Try doing this in stages. How much heat is required to bring the ice to the point of melting? Does the water have that much heat in it? If it does, then how much heat is left? Is it enough to melt all the ice? And so on.
 
Hello Voko,

I have tried this in stages but continue to do something incorrectly.

The Amount of Energy in Water
((specific Heat water)X(Mass water)x(∆temperature))
4.18 X 73.3C X 206gram=63,117Joules

The Amount of Energy to get ice to melting point
((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(∆temperature))
2.11 * 10c * 176grams=3,713Joules

Energy for Melting
((mass ice)*(heat of fusion))
334*176=58,784

Total Energy of ice melt and bringing to melting point
((specific Heat ice)X(Mass ice)x(∆temperature))+((mass ice)*(heat of fusion))
62,497

62,497<63,117 complete melting of ice occurs

the remaining energy is 602 joules
the total remaining water mass is 176+206=382grams
620joules=382grams * 4.18 * (x-0)
602= 1,597 * (x-0)
0.38=(x-0)

This does not seem correct though
 
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I get 620 J for the residual heat.
 
Sorry 620 is the number that I come to. "602" was a typo. Is this the correct calculation?
 
Jham808 said:
Sorry 620 is the number that I come to. "602" was a typo. Is this the correct calculation?

I do not see any error.
 
voko said:
I do not see any error.

Actually, I do.

This: "176+206=326" can't be right.
 
good catch I have corrected the 602 error and 326 error in my post. Other than those two Items, you believe my method is the exact way to calculate this problem?
 
Everything else looks good.
 

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