Calculating the Impact Speed of a Bullet Fired Straight Up

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The problem involves calculating the impact speed of a bullet fired straight upwards, taking into account the effects of air resistance. The bullet has an initial speed of 300 m/s and experiences a constant acceleration due to air resistance of 1 m/s² during its flight.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various approaches, including using energy concepts to equate kinetic energy change with work done by air resistance. Some question the validity of the original poster's attempt, suggesting a need to consider total acceleration and the motion's two parts. Others inquire about the necessity of using equations of motion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering different perspectives on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of energy concepts and equations of motion, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity introduced by the differing accelerations during ascent and descent, as well as the need to clarify assumptions regarding initial conditions and constants like gravitational acceleration.

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Homework Statement


A bullet fired straight upwards experiences an acceleration due to air resistance of 1m/s2 during its entire flight. If it leaves the barrel of the gun at 300m/s, with what speed does it hit the ground?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


integral of a=t + c. When c=0, a=t
?
Speed is 300m/s?
 
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I think it will be easier if you do it using the energy concepts.
Equate the change in kinetic energy to the work done by air resistance.
And no it's not 300m/s !
#The change in kinetic energy will include the final velocity term.
Also the mass will get cancelled.
 
Ineedhelp809 said:

Homework Statement


A bullet fired straight upwards experiences an acceleration due to air resistance of 1m/s2 during its entire flight. If it leaves the barrel of the gun at 300m/s, with what speed does it hit the ground?

Homework Equations


None given

The Attempt at a Solution


integral of a=t + c. When c=0, a=t
?
Speed is 300m/s?

No, and that's not a very good attempt. What's the total acceleration going up? How high do you get starting with an initial velocity of 300m/s? Then reverse the problem going down.
 
Suraj M said:
I think it will be easier if you do it using the energy concepts.
Equate the change in kinetic energy to the work done by air resistance.
And no it's not 300m/s !
#The change in kinetic energy will include the final velocity term.
Also the mass will get cancelled.

It's just kinematics here. The acceleration going up is constant and the acceleration coming down is a different constant. I don't think energy conservation will help all that much.
 
Do I have to use equations of motion?
 
Ineedhelp809 said:
Do I have to use equations of motion?

Well, yes. Or integrate them yourself. What's the value of the acceleration going up?
 
Dick said:
The acceleration going up is constant and the acceleration coming down is a different constant.
well yes(ignoring our high initial velocity of 300m/s, and assuming g as constant, though there will be a noticeable difference), it still can be done, but yes, it will get a bit more complicated,
for OP: try to split the motion into 2 parts and define the list the physical quantities that you can find out from the given information.
 

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