Calculating the Potential Energy of a 3-point charge config.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the potential energy of a three-point charge configuration, specifically focusing on the electric potential at a designated point, the work done to move a charge from infinity to that point, and the total potential energy of the system once all charges are in place. The context is a homework problem involving electrostatics.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • The initial problem involves three charges: q1 at the origin, q2 at a specified distance, and a third charge q3 to be added later.
  • One participant calculated the electric potential at point P to be approximately 0.83 V and the work done to bring q3 to point P as 1.3746 x 10-8 J.
  • Another participant questions the accuracy of the calculated potential at point P, suggesting it should be greater than 40 V based on the contribution from q1 alone.
  • There is a request for the complete problem statement and detailed calculations to better understand the context and identify any errors in the initial calculations.
  • Clarification is sought regarding the values of the charges, particularly whether q2 is indeed -4.46 nC as stated.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the calculated electric potential at point P, with some suggesting it is likely incorrect. There is no consensus on the correct values or methods to arrive at the total potential energy.

Contextual Notes

The problem statement is noted to be incomplete, lacking clarity on what specific calculations are required. Additionally, there are unresolved questions about the accuracy of the potential calculations and the values of the charges involved.

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Homework Statement


Charge q1= 8.5 nC is located at the coordinate system origin (0,0), while charge q2= -4.46 nC is located at (a,0), where a= 1.5 m. The point P has coordinates (a,b), where b=0.95 m. A third charge q3= 16.5 nC will b added later. It is a 3 part question, first asking for the Electric Potential at point P, then asking for the work done to bring q3 from infinity to point P, and then finding the total potential energy of the final configuration of three charges.

Homework Equations


U=q*V= -W
U=kq1q2/r
Utotal= U1 + U1,2 + U1-2,3

The Attempt at a Solution


The question is in three part. The first part I found the electric potential at point P, which is 0.83314271 V. The second part I found the work (W) it took to move q3 to point P, which is 1.3746*10-8 J. I understand that what we are doing is finding the work it takes to move the 3 charges to the point and the the Potential Energy of the first charge is 0 J.

I know the answer, which is -28.9 J, but I don't know how to get there.
 
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Hi DaveedL,

Welcome to Physics Forums!

Can you please provide the complete problem statement? The Problem statement section of your post doesn't say anything about what is to be found or calculated. Is q2 really exactly one nC?

You should show details of any calculations that you've done. If something looks "off" with any answers you quote we have no way to tell what went wrong if you don't show your work. For example, you say that you found a potential of about 0.83V at point P, but looking at just the potential there due to the first charge alone it should be greater than 40 V. Can't fix what we can't see.
 
gneill said:
Hi DaveedL,

Welcome to Physics Forums!

Can you please provide the complete problem statement? The Problem statement section of your post doesn't say anything about what is to be found or calculated. Is q2 really exactly one nC?

You should show details of any calculations that you've done. If something looks "off" with any answers you quote we have no way to tell what went wrong if you don't show your work. For example, you say that you found a potential of about 0.83V at point P, but looking at just the potential there due to the first charge alone it should be greater than 40 V. Can't fix what we can't see.
Just updated it! Sorry about that. But yes the V at Point P to my knowledge should be the combination of V from q1 and V from q2.
 
DaveedL said:
Just updated it! Sorry about that. But yes the V at Point P to my knowledge should be the combination of V from q1 and V from q2.
Right.

But the problem statement is still incomplete. Nowhere in your problem statement do you explain what is to be calculated. Helpers should be able to work the entire problem from the information given in the problem statement.
 

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