Calculating the Time-Average Intensity of 3 Slits

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time-average intensity of light from three slits in a physics context, specifically focusing on the relationship between electric field amplitude and intensity. Participants are exploring the mathematical expressions involved in the problem.

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  • Participants are questioning the process of squaring the amplitude to find the time average and discussing the implications of averaging the sine function. There is also a focus on understanding the maximum value of the amplitude expression and how it relates to intensity.

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The conversation is actively exploring different interpretations of the mathematical relationships involved. Some participants have provided insights into the definitions of terms and the implications of averaging, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the concepts presented.

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There are mentions of missing information, such as diagrams and definitions of symbols, which may affect the clarity of the problem. Additionally, participants are considering the implications of time averaging versus spatial averaging in their calculations.

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Homework Statement
If the three slits have equal widths, show that intensity I1 of light on the screen as a function of y is I = I/9[1 + 2cos(2pi * dy/Rw)]^2 where w is wavelength

If the width of the central slit is made twice as wide show that the intensity becomes I = 16I/9cos^4(pi*dy/Rw)
Relevant Equations
Sin/cosine addition formulas
Here’s an image of the equations better layed out
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here’s the solution, I don’t understand how they are squaring it to get the time average

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maxim07 said:
I don’t understand how they are squaring it to get the time average
Your problem description is incomplete, e.g. no diagram or definition of all symbols. (Though the missing information may not be necessary to answer your question.)

And you haven’t actually explained your difficulty.

Do you understand up to the part where the total (electric) field amplitude as a function of ##y## is given by ##Asin(1+2cos\phi)## where ##\phi = \frac {2\pi dy}{R\lambda}##?

Remember, intensity is proportional to the square of the amplitude of the electric field. What is the maximum possible value of ##(1+ 2cos\phi)^2##?
 
I understand up to Asin(1+2cosφ). The max value of (1+2cosφ)^2 = 9 so you have to divide I0 by 9. I understand that now, but if the (1+2cosΦ) is the amplitude then the sinx must get averaged, but I thought that would introduce a factor of 1/2?
 
The constant ##I_0## is defined to be the total intensity for ##y = 0## for the three equal-sized slits. So, the resultant expression for ##I(y)## for this case must reduce to ##I_0## for ##y = 0##.

##I_0## already includes the contribution due to time averaging as well as any constants of proportionality between intensity and square of the amplitude.
 
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maxim07 said:
.. if the (1+2cosΦ) is the amplitude then the sinx must get averaged, but I thought that would introduce a factor of 1/2?
Can I add this to what @TSny has said:

Remember ##\phi = \frac {2\pi dy}{R\lambda}##.

The field at position y, time t can be expressed in full as, say:
##E(y,t) = Asin(1+2cos(\frac {2\pi dy}{R\lambda}))sin(ωt + α)##
so
##E(y,t)^2 = A^2sin^2(1+2cos( \frac {2\pi dy}{R\lambda}))sin^2(ωt + φ)##

The average of ##sin^2(\text {anything})## over a complete number of cycles is ½. So the time- average of the field at y is:
##<E(y,t)^2>_{time} = ½A^2sin^2(1+2cos( \frac {2\pi dy}{R\lambda}))##

(We definitely don’t want to average over y as we are interested in the intensity for each value of y!)
 

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