Calculating the Volume of a Rotated Solid Using Calculus

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of a solid generated by rotating a region in the x-y plane between a line and a curve about a specified line. Participants explore the setup of the integral needed for this calculation, addressing challenges related to the axis of rotation and the application of calculus techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes an integral setup of the form from -pi/2 to 3pi/2 of (4 - 3sin(x) + 1)^2, expressing uncertainty about its correctness and mentioning a hint about using a double angle formula.
  • Another participant suggests looking at online tutorials for finding solids of rotation about an off-axis line and requests to see the original poster's working steps.
  • A participant clarifies that the outer radius is 3sin(x) + 1 and the inner radius is zero, leading to the integral setup but expresses confusion about the application of the double angle formula in this context.
  • One participant proposes a substitution of z = y - 4 as a potential simplification.
  • Another participant notes that there are multiple approaches to the problem and suggests sketching the function and the region being integrated to aid understanding.
  • A later reply points out a potential error in the integral setup, questioning the algebra used in the original expression.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct setup of the integral and the application of techniques, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing approaches and interpretations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the axis of rotation and the specific functions involved, which may affect the integral setup. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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Find the volume of the solid generated by rotating the region of the x-y plane between the line Y=4,the curve Y=3sin(x)+1 on the interval [-pi/2,3pi/2] about the line Y=4Hi I am having trouble setting up this problem my guess for the integral would be from -pi/2 to 3pi/2 of (4-3sinx+1)^2 because it is being rotated around the line y=4. When i plug the answer i get from this into my course homework site it gives me a hint saying that I should i try use a double angle formula which leads me to believe i may have set of my volume equation wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Okay well I know because it is being rotated around a line y=4 that is not on the axis it follows that the integral from a to be which in this case would be -pi/2 to 3pi/2 of the outer radius squared minus the inner radius squared times pi. I believe that 3 sin(x)+1 was my outer radius because it is furthest away from the line y=4, my inner radius is zero because my upper bound is the axis I am rotating about so that gives me the integral from -pi/2 to 3pi/2 of (4-3sinx+1)^2 because the line y=4 is above 3sinx+1 i subtracted it. Distributing the square gives me 9sin^2x -30sinx+25 times pi. I am confused if i set up the correct function to be integrated and I worked on many problems like this, the only difference is that their were two functions both off of the axis of rotation. I am just struggle with the idea that it is on the axis of rotation and how i apply a double angle to that.
 
What if you substitute z=y-4?
 
There are lots of ways of doing the problem - if the hint makes no sense it may just be that you have used a different approach to what the book's author expected.
A quick way to check your understanding of the problem is to sketch the function and shade in the region being integrated. I would look for an equivalent solid - one with the same volume - that is easier to set the integral up for.
 
Simon Bridge said:
A quick way to check your understanding of the problem is to sketch the function and shade in the region being integrated.
In addition to sketching the region that is being revolved, I always draw a sketch of the solid of revolution, including the typical volume element.
 
If I'm following things - there is an error here
the integral from -pi/2 to 3pi/2 of (4-3sinx+1)^2
... this does not follow from the description. Check your algebra.
 

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