Calculating the Young's Modulus of Rubber - Calculation Check

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The discussion revolves around calculating the Young's modulus of rubber based on an experimental setup involving a rubber band and various weights. The original poster presents specific measurements and a calculated modulus value, expressing concern about its validity compared to known ranges for rubber.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster questions the accuracy of their measurements, particularly the area of the rubber band, and seeks validation of their calculated modulus value. Some participants suggest reconsidering the measurement of the area due to the stretching effect.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the original poster's measurements and calculations. There is an emphasis on providing hints and guidance rather than complete solutions, reflecting a commitment to the forum's educational approach.

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Participants note the importance of addressing measurement accuracy and the potential impact of assumptions made during the experiment. There is a recognition of the guidelines that discourage providing full solutions, aiming instead to support understanding through hints and clarifications.

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Homework Statement



Dear Yahoo Answers,
Can someone please help me with this as it's driving me crazy!
We had to complete an experiment where had to calculate the Young’s modulus of Rubber,
by doing an experiment.
So we used a rubber band and various weights to calculate the values, to hence calculate the Young's Constant.




Homework Equations



My values are as follows:

Force = 0.4 kg = 3.92 Newtons
Orginal Length = 50mm
Change in Length = 184.33mm
( Therefore Final Length = 234.33mm)
and Area = 2.5 mm^2


The Attempt at a Solution




Do these values look approximately correct,
and does the final Modulus value of 425 324.147 N/m^-2
look alright for that of rubber?

The problem of that would be that it's actually too small for the actual range for the Modulus,
between 0.1 and 0.01 * 10^9 N/m^2.

Clearing this up for me would be greatly appreciated.
Any help and/or contribution will be great appreciated too.

Thanks.
 
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Are you sure you measured the area correctly? Remember it will narrow as it is stretched.
 
@haruspex I 've noticed you reply to this old threads like the OP is going to hear you and you going to have a dialogue with him but this 99.99% isn't going to happen. The point of replying this unanswered threads is so that future google readers will find them useful and PF will get better google score.
I suggest if you going to reply to these threads to give strong hints towards their solution or even write the full solution. Or give some guidelines so that someone that knows the basics of theory will be able to solve the problem if he follows your guidelines.
 
Delta2 said:
@haruspex I 've noticed you reply to this old threads like the OP is going to hear you and you going to have a dialogue with him but this 99.99% isn't going to happen. The point of replying this unanswered threads is so that future google readers will find them useful and PF will get better google score.
I suggest if you going to reply to these threads to give strong hints towards their solution or even write the full solution. Or give some guidelines so that someone that knows the basics of theory will be able to solve the problem if he follows your guidelines.
Yes, I am quite aware the original OP is long gone, but it still seems right just to give the hint/correction I would have given at the time. Remember that one reason for this exercise is to show what help can be expected from the forum.

Another student coming in with the same question should not be presented with a full solution, and may well gain from the hint offered. If their issue is different, they can post to the thread.
 
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Well ok that's another way to deal with this situation...
 
My decision on how to respond to these was to ignore the age of the original post and proceed as usual. We have our guidelines for providing help and we believe in them for good reason. In my opinion, deviating from them will blur the line between PF and the "for hire" problem-solving sites.
 
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