Calculating Thermal Expansion in a Steel Cable

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The discussion revolves around calculating the temperature change (θ) in a steel cable due to thermal expansion. The original poster describes a scenario where a steel cable, initially horizontal at 20°C, bends at a higher temperature. The problem involves applying the linear expansion coefficient for steel.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the Pythagorean theorem to determine the expanded length of the cable and apply the linear expansion formula. There are questions about potential errors in calculations and the need for clarification on the steps taken to derive θ.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their calculations and questioning each other's results. Some have noted discrepancies in their calculations, suggesting a collaborative effort to identify errors. There is no explicit consensus on the correct value of θ, but various interpretations and approaches are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential miscalculations and typing errors in the participants' attempts, particularly regarding the application of the linear expansion formula and the division by the original length. The original poster expresses confusion about the results obtained.

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Homework Statement



As shown in attachment a steel cable is stretched between two poles. In 20°C temperature the cable remains horizontal (the length of the cable 10m). At a higher temperature θ°C the cable bends like in attachment. The lamp hanging from the mid-point could be thought as weightless. The linear expansion coefficient for steel is 12 * 10^-6. What is the value of θ?


Homework Equations



l' = l [1 + αθ] ------- 1


The Attempt at a Solution



I first used pythagorian to find the expanded length so,

L^2 = 25 + 64 * 10^-4

that gives L = 5.0064
so the total expanded length 2L = 10.0128

And applying it to the (1) equation
I get a value for θ = 126 °C ! obviously absurd.

So anyone got a hint on what I'm doing wrong?
 

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Pls post the steps between calculating the expanded length and getting theta.
 
has1993 said:
L^2 = 25 + 64 * 10^-4

that gives L = 5.00064
so the total expanded length 2L = 10.00128

And applying it to the (1) equation
I get a value for θ = 126 °C ! obviously absurd.

So anyone got a hint on what I'm doing wrong?

You miss some zeroes. I think it is just typing error. I got the same result a you.
Edit: We both forgot to divide the change of length by the original length. ehild
 
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Strange - I get 30.7C.
Fractional expansion = 0.000128 = 1.28E-4. Dividing by 12E-6 gives a bit over 10.
 
haruspex said:
Strange - I get 30.7C.
Fractional expansion = 0.000128 = 1.28E-4. Dividing by 12E-6 gives a bit over 10.

You are right, I forgot to divide by Lo. :redface:

ehild
 
Thks guys. It really helped. I think I've made some miscalculations. But now i get it. :D
 

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