Calculating Total Energy of Positron and Electron in Quantum Physics Problem

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The problem involves calculating the total energy of a positron and an electron in the context of quantum physics, specifically focusing on their rest and kinetic energies during a collision that results in photon creation.

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  • Participants discuss the total energy of the positron and electron, questioning how to correctly sum their energies. There is confusion regarding the relationship between rest energy and kinetic energy in the context of particle collisions.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of how to calculate total energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider both rest and kinetic energies, but there remains uncertainty about the correct total energy value.

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Homework Statement



Hi
I am new to this forum and offering quantum physics at A level. Can anybody help with the following problem:

The rest energy of an electron is 0.511MeV. A positron created in a cloud chamber has 0.158MeV of kinetic energy. It collides with an electron at rest, creating two photons of equal energies as a result of annihilation.

1. calculate the total energy of the positron and the electron.
2. show that the energy of each photon is .590MeV.

Thanks
Ben

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Hint: What is the total energy of the positron?
 
The total energy should be 0.511 x 2. Since the electrons rest energy is 0.511 any particle colliding with it will have the same energy.
 
aurao2003 said:
The total energy should be 0.511 x 2. Since the electrons rest energy is 0.511 any particle colliding with it will have the same energy.
Huh? That does not make any sense to me at all. Why should the energy of any other particle be affected by the rest energy of the electron??
Total energy of the system is simply just the sum of the total energies of the electron and the positron. We know that the total energy of the electron is simply its rest energy, 0.511 MeV. So now all we need to do is get the energy of the positron. What is it?
 
The energy of the positron is 0.158MeV. Therefore the total energy of the system is 0.158+0.511=0.669 MeV. However the answer is 1.180 MeV.
 
aurao2003 said:
The energy of the positron is 0.158MeV. Therefore the total energy of the system is 0.158+0.511=0.669 MeV. However the answer is 1.180 MeV.
0.158 MeV is the kinetic energy of the positron. The total energy of the positron is the sum of its kinetic and rest energies.
 
Fightfish said:
0.158 MeV is the kinetic energy of the positron. The total energy of the positron is the sum of its kinetic and rest energies.


Thats true. But I wonder how they obtained 1.180 MeV. Please explain. Thanks.
 
The total energy of system = energy of electron + energy of positron
= 0.511 MeV + (0.511 MeV + 0.158 MeV)
= 1.180 MeV
 
Fightfish said:
The total energy of system = energy of electron + energy of positron
= 0.511 MeV + (0.511 MeV + 0.158 MeV)
= 1.180 MeV

Thanks a lot. Have a nice day.

Regards
Ben
 

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