Calculating Vapor Pressure of Water with Desolved Solids

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This discussion focuses on calculating the vapor pressure of water with dissolved solids, specifically in the context of centrifugal pump performance. The user successfully computes various parameters such as pressures, flows, and viscosity but struggles with determining the vapor pressure of non-pure water. The Antoine equation is utilized for pure water vapor pressure calculations, but the user seeks to adjust this for salinity levels measured in EC, PPT, or PSU. The primary questions revolve around the relationship between vapor pressure and dissolved solids, and whether existing formulas can accommodate these adjustments.

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  • Understanding of the Antoine equation for vapor pressure calculations
  • Knowledge of centrifugal pump performance metrics
  • Familiarity with salinity measurements (EC, PPT, PSU)
  • Basic principles of fluid dynamics and NPSH (Net Positive Suction Head)
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  • Research methods for adjusting vapor pressure calculations for dissolved solids
  • Explore the relationship between electrical conductivity (EC) and temperature effects on salinity
  • Investigate empirical formulas for estimating vapor pressure in saline solutions
  • Learn about the impact of dissolved solids on fluid density and its implications for pump performance
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Engineers, fluid dynamics specialists, and software developers involved in pump design and performance optimization, particularly those working with non-pure water solutions.

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Hi I'm currently writing a some software for calculating the effects of
differant grades of water on Centrifical Pump Purformance

i have be able to calculate all the apropiate Pressures, flows, viscositys, density, and pressure loss effects on the pump purformance

where I'm having trouble is in calculation of NPSH(a) (net positive suction head),
however to calculat this correctly i need to know the vapor pressure of the water that if feeding the pump
using the following formula
NPSHa = Fluid Surface Pressure (atompheric pressure as fluid surface)
+ Suction Head
+ Guage Pressure at Fuild Surace (almost always Zero)
- Suction Pipe friction Losses
- Fluid Vapour Pressure

however its simple enuf to fin the vapour pressure of water at a given temp just using the
Antoine equation
(with Temp Range of 0 - 100c)
vP = 10 ^ (A -(B/C+T))
where
A = 8.07131
B = 1730.63
C = 233.426
T = Temp Chowever i now want to adjust the Vapour pressure to match the not so pure water

i wish to addin the effect of the salinity to calculate the correct vapour pressure
i can enter the salinity as EC, PPT, PPM or PSU (and convert between then accuratcy or +- 1%, with my own made up equation as i couldn't find one to do it)

So after all that background
First thing i need to know is that my EC to PSU, PPT calculator only works when messuring at 25c
if i rase the temp does the EC change... if so is it enough to worry about?
and is there a formula to help calculate this
And second and most important is there an equation to correct the vapour pressure based on the EC, PPT, or PSU?
or denisty of the water

Hope the questions make sense, and thanks up front for the help
 
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Seems my question is a little above some of you, or i just asked it in a bad way

i''ll try simplify it,

i'm trying to find out IF/What is the relationship of vapour pressure vs desolved solids, however i don't know the exact solids that are disolved, just the total (from the EC meter), and of course if and how it can be calculated

finding the vapour pressure of pure water is easy, however i never use pure water

IE
oi have water at 40c, with an EC reading as 1400 or 699 mg/l (ppm)
and want to calc the vapour pressure of this solultion

it doesn't have to be exact just within 10% would be sufficent
 

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