Calculating Voltages Across Resistors Using Ohm's Law

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The problem involves two resistors connected in series to an ideal battery, with measurements taken using a voltmeter to determine the voltages across each resistor. The voltmeter readings indicate 6V across one resistor, 4V across the other, and 12V when connected across both resistors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the voltmeter readings and how they relate to the resistors' values. There is an exploration of the relationship between the voltages and the resistor ratios, particularly focusing on how to express the voltages without the voltmeter's influence.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided expressions for the voltages across the resistors and are considering the implications of the voltage ratio. There is an acknowledgment of being close to a solution, with hints of guidance offered regarding the relationships between the resistors.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the internal resistance of the voltmeter affects the voltage readings, and they are trying to determine the voltages across the resistors before the voltmeter was connected.

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Homework Statement



Two resistors are connected in series to an ideal battery. When the voltmeter is connected in parallel to one of the resistors, it showed 6V; when connected in parallel to another resistor it showed 4V. When the voltmeter was connected in parallel to both resistors (connected to pins A and B, see attachment) it showed 12V. What were the voltages across both resistors before the voltmeter was connected?

Homework Equations



Ohm's law

The Attempt at a Solution



I guess we can say from the third measurement that the voltage of the supply is 12V. Now the voltage across the first resistor is normally V_1 = V * \frac{R_1}{R_1 + R_2}, where V is the supply voltage. Although when the voltmeter is connected due to its internal resistance the voltage across 1st resistor changes; then the voltage across the voltmeter and the first resistor is V_1' = V * \frac{R_{01}}{R_{01}+R2}, and R_{01} = \frac{R_1 * r}{R_1 + r}, r is the voltmeter resistance. Thus V_1' = V * \frac{R_1r}{R_1r + R_2R_1 + R_2r}. Same calculations can be made for the second resistor. Is that right? I can't figure out what to do next - any help appreciated.
 

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So you have expressions for ##V_1'## and for ## V_2'##. You know the ratio is 4/6. What does that say about ##R_1/R_2## ?
 
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Rugile said:

The Attempt at a Solution



I guess we can say from the third measurement that the voltage of the supply is 12V. Now the voltage across the first resistor is normally V_1 = V * \frac{R_1}{R_1 + R_2},

The question is what would be the voltages without the voltmeter. You wrote the expression for V1, you can write it in terms of R2/R1. On the same way, you can find V2 in terms of R1/R2.

R1/R2 can be found from the ratio of the measured voltages, as BvU suggested.

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Yes, thank you very much! Was quite close to the answer myself, I guess :)
 
Yes, you were quite close, needed just a little push:smile:

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