Calculating Water Depth Using Snell's Law and Trigonometry

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The discussion revolves around calculating the depth of water using Snell's Law and trigonometric functions. The problem involves a light beam transitioning from air into water, with specific angles of incidence and refraction, and a known distance between two points on the bottom of the water tank.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Snell's Law to find the angle of refraction and the use of trigonometric functions to relate the angles and distances involved. There are questions regarding the substitution of values for angles and the implications of obtaining negative values in their calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on showing detailed work and clarifying the application of Snell's Law. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved, with some participants expressing confusion over negative results and others confirming positive outcomes. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered.

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Homework Statement


The light beam travels from air into water,the angle of incidence is 60 degress. The bent beam creates point F on the bottom of eater tank.If we imagine extension of incident beam inside the water, we obtain point B on the bottom of water tank. The distance between F and B is 1m. Calculate the depth of the water.
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First i used the Snells law to obtain the angle of the bent beam.
Second i thought i use trigonometric functions to obtain the height.
tg(angle1)=x/h and tg(angle2)=(x+1)/h
From which I obtained negative value of x, which confused me.
So guys, do you think this is the way to go or someone has any different ideas?
 
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prehisto said:

Homework Statement


The light beam travels from air into water,the angle of incidence is 60 degress. The bent beam creates point F on the bottom of eater tank.If we imagine extension of incident beam inside the water, we obtain point B on the bottom of water tank. The distance between F and B is 1m. Calculate the depth of the water.
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First i used the Snells law to obtain the angle of the bent beam.
Well, show how you applied Snell's law.
prehisto said:
Second i thought i use trigonometric functions to obtain the height.
tg(angle1)=x/h and tg(angle2)=(x+1)/h
Yes, this is the right way, What values did you substitute for angle1 and angle 2?
prehisto said:
From which I obtained negative value of x, which confused me.
So guys, do you think this is the way to go or someone has any different ideas?
It is impossible to get negative x, Show your work in detail.
 
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From Snells law I obtained angle value 40,5 degrees (angle1)

ehild said:
t is impossible to get negative x, Show your work in detail.
From trigonometric equations I expressed h, so x/( tg(angle1) )= h and (x+1)/(tg(angle2))=h
Then x/(tg(angle1))=(x+1)/(tg(angle2))
And obtained x=- (tg(angle1)/(tg(angle1)-tg(angle2)

In fact, now I obteined positive value of 0,97. So I think everything is all right :)
 
From Snell's law n1sinα=n2sinβ where α is the angle of incidence and β is the angle between normal and beam in the water.
Using the given info,
sinα=√3/2=(x+1)\√(x+1)2+h2,
from here you get x= √3h-1 and x=-√3h-1 (however this is negative, so not a physical solution) and sinβ=x\√x2+h2=√3n1/2n2) which gives you an equation with 1 unknown, namely h, after substituting x=√3h-1. If I did not make any mistakes, the last equation should give you h.
 
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From Snells law I obtained angle value 40,5 degrees (angle1)From trigonometric equations I expressed h, so x/( tg(angle1) )= h and (x+1)/(tg(angle2))=h
Then x/(tg(angle1))=(x+1)/(tg(angle2))
And obtained x=- (tg(angle1)/(tg(angle1)-tg(angle2)

In fact, now I obteined positive value of 0,97. So I think everything is all right :)
Take care at the rounding. It is right otherwise, keep more significant digits during the calculations. You need to determine h from the x value yet.
 
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