Calculating Wave Velocity on a String: Solving for Velocity at Different Points

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of points on a string where a wave is traveling. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the wave speed and its variation along the string, particularly questioning the correctness of a given speed of 45 m/s.

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  • Participants discuss the need to differentiate between the phase velocity of the wave and the vertical velocity of points on the string. There are attempts to formulate the wave equation and understand the variables involved, such as amplitude, frequency, and phase constant.

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Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing insights into the wave equation and its components. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the definitions of variables like time and position, as well as the implications of amplitude being zero at certain points. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between wave speed, wavelength, and frequency.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the values of time and position in the context of the wave equation, as well as the implications of amplitude at specific points. The original poster and others express uncertainty about how to apply the wave equation to find the required velocities.

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The figure shows a snapshot graph of a wave traveling to the right along a string at 45 m/s. Find velocity at 1, 2, and 3

I don't know how to approach this problem since I thought the speed of a wave traveled the same speed on all of the string but it tells me that 45m/s is wrong.
 

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dtesselstrom said:
I don't know how to approach this problem since I thought the speed of a wave traveled the same speed on all of the string but it tells me that 45m/s is wrong.
I think they are asking for the vertical velocity of the matter point on the string... You have all the elements: you know the phase velocity and wavelength of the wave, and from the figure you can also read its amplitude (and phase). Write down the mathematical expression for the wave (hint: will be something like sin or cos of something), and then look at the motion of a point at fixed value of x...
 
they have a equation that says Vy=-omega*Acos(kx-omega*t+phase constant)
I don't know what t or x stand for so how would I calculate this and isn't A at the point 0 equal to 0 therefore the velocity should be 0. I don't get how this equation is used and I can't find an example of it.
 
dtesselstrom said:
I don't know what t or x stand for

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t stands for time, and x stands for the x-coordinate (along the wave motion) of course !
 
I know what they stand for but I don't know what they are. How do I find these values? Also what do I do about A since it should be 0 at the point 0 so shouldn't the answer be 0. Everytime I try this equation I get the wrong answer.
 
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Anyone have any more advice on this problem please.
 
dtesselstrom said:
I know what they stand for but I don't know what they are. How do I find these values?
Since you have the speed of the wave and the wavelength, you should be able to figure out the frequency.

Also what do I do about A since it should be 0 at the point 0 so shouldn't the answer be 0.
A is the amplitude of the wave--it's not zero.
Everytime I try this equation I get the wrong answer.
You might need to review what the equation means; try reading http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/waves/wavsol.html#c4"
 
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Velocity of Points

I am trying to create the equation for the line like you said, i have solved values for A, f, w, and k. However, I cannot find the phase constant. Also, once I do have the equation, how it help me find the velocity at the different points?

Thanks in advance.
 
How do you find t in this question?
 

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