Calculating Welded Area and Rivet Diameter for Shear Stress - Homework Solution

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the calculation of welded area and rivet diameter for shear stress in a structural construct. Participants explore the application of mechanics principles to determine stresses and reactions in the system.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 presents the problem statement and the parameters for calculating the welded area and rivet diameter based on allowable stresses.
  • Post 2 critiques the initial approach to calculating vertical shear in the weld, suggesting that end reactions must be calculated first and that the lengths used in calculations should relate to the overall weld length.
  • Post 3 seeks clarification on the concept of end reactions and acknowledges a potential misunderstanding regarding the summation of lengths in the calculations.
  • Post 4 reiterates the importance of using the sum of forces and moments to solve for vertical end reactions and bending moments at point B, while questioning the inclusion of an additional length in the calculations.
  • Post 5 indicates a correction in understanding and confirms a successful calculation for shearing stress.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct application of mechanics principles, particularly regarding the calculation of end reactions and the summation of lengths. The discussion remains unresolved as participants refine their approaches and clarify concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the geometry and loading conditions may not be explicitly stated, and the discussion reflects ongoing corrections and refinements in understanding the problem.

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Homework Statement


The depicted construct is made of a rod with a square cross-section and two plates. The plates are jointed together through 4 similar rivets. The square rod is welded to the wall at "B" and to the plates at the other end through peripheral corner welds.

On the board acts an external force F = 6000 [N]

A) Calculate the needed width of the welded area at B
B) The rivets' diameter.

Given:

Allowable stress at welded area = 80 MPa
Allowable shearing stress at the rivet = 60 MPa
Allowable local compression at the rivets = 100 MPahttp://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5481/lookad.jpg

Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



Can it be ths simple??

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The equation for vertical shear in the weld is simple enough, but you are not applying it correctly. You should first calculate the end reactions before determining weld stresses. There will be a shear load, a bending moment, and a torsional moment. For the vertical shear , your value of the vertical reaction is correct, but you are incorrectly summing your l's. The l's are not related to the overhang length. They relate to the overall weld length at B.
 
What do you mean by end reaction? Technical mechanics? Sum of all forces = 0?

your value of the vertical reaction is correct, but you are incorrectly summing your l's. The l's are not related to the overhang length. They relate to the overall weld length at B.

Hmm, I think I see what you're saying

My "l" should be 800 + 80 + 80 + 80 + 80

Since it's square shaped
 
Femme_physics said:
What do you mean by end reaction? Technical mechanics? Sum of all forces = 0?
At B, use sum of all forces acting vertical on the beam = 0 , to solve for the vertical end reaction at B. Use sum of all moments about an axis running thru B out of the plane of the paper to solve for the bending moment at B. Use sum of moments about an axis passing thru B along the length of the beam to solve for the torsional moment at B.
Hmm, I think I see what you're saying

My "l" should be 800 + 80 + 80 + 80 + 80

Since it's square shaped
why the extra 800?
 
Thank you, noticed my mistake. Solved it for shearing :)
 

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