Calculating Work and Kinetic Energy: A Ski Slope Scenario

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving work and kinetic energy in the context of a skier being pulled up a frictionless slope by a tow rope. The scenario includes specific parameters such as the angle of the slope and the work done by the rope.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between work, force, and distance using the formula w = f * d * cos(theta). There is also an attempt to apply the work-energy principle with kinetic energy equations. Questions arise regarding the effect of speed on the force and work done by the rope.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting various approaches to understand the relationship between work, force, and speed. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of constant speed on tension in the rope and the calculation of power as the rate of work done.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the role of speed in the calculations, and participants are questioning assumptions about the tension in the rope at different speeds. The original poster has provided specific values and conditions for the problem, which may limit the discussion.

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work and kinetic energy?

i was wondering if anyone could help with this proplem:

A skier pulled by a tow rope up a frictionless ski slope that makes an angle of 12° with the horizontal. The rope moves parallel to the slope with a constant speed of 1.0 m/s. The force of the rope does 930 J of work on the skier as the skier moves a distance of 7.2 m up the incline.

If the rope moved with a constant speed of 2.0 m/s, how much work would the force of the rope do on the skier as the skier moved a distance of 7.2 m up the incline?

At what rate is the force of the rope doing work on the skier when the rope moves with a speed of 1.0 m/s

At what rate is the force of the rope doing work on the skier when the rope moves with a speed of 2.0 m/s?


all that i have is w=f*d*cos(theta) please help
 
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ok i tried sumation of work=1/2mv(final)^2-1/2mv(inital)^2. no go. then i tried to used w=fdcos(theata) 930=f*7.2*cos(12). nothing. does speed matter when dealing with force and work?!?
 
kappcity06 said:
ok i tried sumation of work=1/2mv(final)^2-1/2mv(inital)^2. no go. then i tried to used w=fdcos(theata) 930=f*7.2*cos(12). nothing. does speed matter when dealing with force and work?!?
The formula w=fdcos(theta) is perfectly fine as well as sum of the work = final kinetic energy - initial kinetic energy.

so the work done by the rope is T d cos (theta) where T is the tension in the rope and theta is the angle between the rope and the direction of the tension, right? So the question becomes this: if the skier is pulled at constant speed at 1 m/s or at 2 m/s, what does it imply for the tension in th erope? . Is it the same at 1m/s than it is at 2 m/s? That will andwer your question.

For the power (or rate of work) of a force, you must divide the work done by the time during which the force was in action.
 
thank you very much
 

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