Calculating Work Done by Variable Force

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The original poster attempts to calculate the work done by a variable force defined by the equation F(x) = 2x^3 - 5x^2 + 10 over the interval from 0 to 10 meters. They have gathered data points using Excel to approximate the area under the curve, which they believe represents the work done.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss numerical methods for approximating work done, including the use of force values at specific increments and the summation of small work contributions. There is a question about whether the calculated total represents work done or force.

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Some participants have offered guidance on the numerical approach, suggesting that the original poster's method aligns with the concept of calculating work. However, there are notes on potential errors in the numerical approximation and the suggestion to consider using the midpoint of intervals for better accuracy. The original poster also indicates a limitation in their current mathematical background, which affects their ability to use integration.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a restriction against using calculus, which may limit their methods for solving the problem accurately.

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Homework Statement


I need To find the work done by a force that varies with position like this:
F(x)=2x^3 -5x^2 +10

with x at values between 0 to 10 meters.

Homework Equations



see above, and maybe w=fd

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the area underneath the curve by putting the values from 0.001 to 10 into Excel, and putting in the equation for all values. it looks like this:

x (in meters) f(x) area of each increment
0.1 9.952 0.009952
0.2 9.816 0.009816
0.3 9.604 0.009604
0.4 9.328 0.009328
0.5 9 0.009
0.6 8.632 0.008632
0.7 8.236 0.008236
0.8 7.824 0.007824
0.9 7.408 0.007408
1 7 0.007
1.1 6.612 0.006612
1.2 6.256 0.006256


area of all increments(using 0.001, not 0.1)
3434.083375

^thats just a sample and is only using .1 increments.

would 3434.083375 actually be my final answer for the work performed, or would that be the force, and if so, what distance would I multiply it by?
 
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If you're going to solve it (approximately) nunerically instead with integration, then for each delta-X, you multiply the force in that delta-X by the delta-X, and add up all those pieces of the work to get the total.
 
berkeman said:
If you're going to solve it (approximately) nunerically instead with integration, then for each delta-X, you multiply the force in that delta-X by the delta-X, and add up all those pieces of the work to get the total.

I believe that's what I did, because I took my force, of say 6.612, and * it by .001 and did that for all of them, and added it up. I am wanting to know if that answer is the work done or not.
 
In your relevant equations, you listed W=fd. So it would seem you have calculated the correct thing.

There is a subtlety, though in doing numerical calculations like this. You will get small errors for each delta-X section, because the delta-Work that you are calculating is not exact. That's why you will later learn to use integration to calculate the exact total work -- integration basically uses infinitesimally small delta-X sections (called "dx"). One improvement you could make to your numerical calculation is to use the y value for the middle of each delta-X section, rather than the value at the end of the delta-X section as you are doing now.
 
Yeah I'm not in Calculus yet, so Integrals wouldn't be an option even IF he hadn't specifically said we couldn't use it.
 

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