Calculating Work for Lifting a Bucket from the Bottom to Top of a 75ft Well

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The problem involves calculating the work required to lift a bucket filled with water from the bottom of a 75-foot deep well. The weight of the bucket changes as it is lifted due to a hole in it, and the weight of the rope also contributes to the total work done.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral for calculating work, questioning the inclusion of a constant factor in the integrand. There is a focus on whether the weight should be treated as constant or variable during the lift.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the setup of the integral and the reasoning behind it. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of variable weights and the necessity of integration.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made regarding the weights of the bucket and rope, as well as the implications of these assumptions on the integral setup.

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Homework Statement


A bucket that weighs 80lbs when filled with water is lifted from the bottom of a well that is 75ft deep. The bucket has a hole in it and weighs only 40lb when it reaches the top of the well. The rope weighs 0.65 lb/ft. Find the work required to life the bucket from the bottom to top of the well.

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Here is what I did:
Set the bottom a y=0 and top at y=75, and got the following:

W_{bucket}= 80 - \frac{40}{75}y

W_{rope}= 48.75 - 0.65y
So:
W_{total} = 128.75 - \frac{71}{60}y

\int_{0}^{75} (128.75 - \frac{71}{60}y)75 dy

Would that be the right integral set up?
 
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Everything appears fine up until the integral. What is 75 doing in the integrand?
 
Does it make a difference? It can come out, but it all integrates the same...
 
Mark44 is right, what is 75 doing in the integrand?
 
are you saying it shouldn't be there at all? I multiplied the weight by the height it had to move, that was my reason
 
Sheneron said:
are you saying it shouldn't be there at all? I multiplied the weight by the height it had to move, that was my reason

You multiply the weight by the height if the weight is constant. Then you don't need to integrate. If the weight isn't constant then you need to integrate over the height. You don't do BOTH.
 
Yeah ok that makes sense. So it would be:

\int_{0}^{75} (128.75 - \frac{71}{60}y)dy
 
Yes.
 
Thanks
 

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