Calculating Work on a Frictionless Horizontal Table

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a particle of mass m moving on a frictionless horizontal table, attached to a massless string. The particle is rotating with an initial angular velocity \(\omega_0\) at a distance \(r_0\) from a hole in the table. The task is to calculate the work done while pulling the string and to show that the work-energy theorem is satisfied.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the initial and final kinetic energies to find the work done, but expresses uncertainty about applying the work integral in this context.
  • Some participants suggest considering conservation laws, particularly energy and angular momentum, to find the force as a function of radius.
  • There is a discussion about the role of centripetal force and whether angular velocity remains constant as the radius changes.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with some guidance provided regarding the importance of centripetal force and conservation principles. There is acknowledgment that assumptions about constant angular velocity may need to be reconsidered.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the implications of pulling the string slowly and the resulting changes in radius and angular velocity. There is a focus on ensuring that the work-energy theorem is satisfied within the constraints of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m is moving on a frictionless horizontal table, attached to a massless string, the other end of which passes through a hole in the table. It was rotating with angular velocity \omega_0, at a distance r_0 from the hole. Assuming that I pull the string so slowly that we can always approximate the path of the particle at any time by a circle of slowly shrinking radius, calculate the work I did while pulling the string. Show that the work-energy theorem is satisfied in this case.


Homework Equations


W = \int F . dr
[/tex]\delta W = KE_f - KE_i[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


Here is how I initially attempted the problem:
KE_i = \frac{1}{2}*m*(r_0 \omega_0)^2
KE_f = \frac{1}{2}*m*(r \omega_f)^2
And by taking the difference I was hoping that I would get the work done. Unfortunately it turns out that I need to do something a bit more complicated.

I know W = \int F . dr but I'm not really sure what to do in order to apply it to this situation.

Anyone have any hints?
 
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Find the force required as a function of radius. Hint: What's conserved? Apply Newton's 2nd law.
 
For this situation, I believe energy conservation is important to consider (or perhaps conservation of angular momentum?)

I'm not sure if this is what you were referring to, but centripetal force comes to mind when trying to find a force as a function of radius.
F(r) = \frac{ mv^2 } {r} = \frac{m \omega_0^2 r^2}{r}
\int_{r_0}^{r} F(r) . dr = 1/2 m \omega_0^2 (r^2 - r_0^2)
Unfortunately this isn't correct, hmm. In this case I assumed that \omega_0 was a constant for both radii. Physically, this seems like a bad assumption, so I will have to try to think of something else.

Am I correct that I should be using centripetal force?
 
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Yes, you need to use centripetal force. (That tells you how hard you must pull on the string.)

No, ω is definitely not constant as the radius changes. But another quantity is constant, which will allow you to figure out the force as a function of radius. (And it's not energy!)
 
Thank you Doc Al, I was able to figure it out.
 

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