Calculating Work Required to Rotate a Dipole in an Electric Field

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The problem involves calculating the work required to rotate a dipole consisting of charges +e and -e, separated by 0.57 nm, in an electric field of 2.6×104 N/C. The original poster seeks to determine the work needed to change the dipole's orientation from parallel to antiparallel with respect to the electric field.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the work formula and question whether the work calculated refers to the work done by electric forces or by an external agent. There is also a focus on understanding the implications of torque in this context.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the work involved in rotating the dipole. Some have provided insights into the relationship between electric forces and the work done by an external agent, leading to a clearer understanding for the original poster.

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There is an indication that the problem may be asking for the work done by an external agent rather than the work done by the electric forces, which raises questions about the assumptions made in the original statement.

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Homework Statement


A dipole consists of charges +e and −e separated by 0.57 nm . It is in an electric field 2.6×104 N/C .
What is the work required to rotate the dipole from being oriented parallel to the field to being antiparallel to the field?

Homework Equations


PE = (dipole moment)(electric field) ## = 2.37 * 10^{-24}##
Work = ##W = PE(\cos{\theta_2}-\cos{\theta_1}) ## (From textbook)
Antiparallel = ##\theta_2 = 180 ##
Parallel = ##\theta_1 = 0 ##

The Attempt at a Solution


When I plugged the numbers for the equation for work I got ## = -4.7 * 10^{-24}## The correct answer is positive. I don't think I made any math mistakes but I can show my work if requested (plugging in numbers) if needed. Thank you very much.
 
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Calpalned said:
Work = ##W = PE(\cos{\theta_2}-\cos{\theta_1}) ## (From textbook)

Is this the work done by the electric forces acting on the charges as the dipole rotates or is it the work done by an external agent that rotates the dipole at constant angular speed?
 
TSny said:
Is this the work done by the electric forces acting on the charges as the dipole rotates or is it the work done by an external agent that rotates the dipole at constant angular speed?
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I think it's done by the electric field
 
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From the textbook's derivation, you can see that they use the torque produced by the electric forces acting on the charges. So, the work they calculate is the work done by the electric forces. But your problem statement is apparently asking for the work required by an external agent, like yourself, to rotate the dipole. To hold the dipole at some angle, you would need to apply a torque that is equal but opposite to the torque due to the electric forces. If you rotate the dipole at a steady rate, your torque is still equal and opposite to the torque due to the electric forces.
 
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TSny said:
From the textbook's derivation, you can see that they use the torque produced by the electric forces acting on the charges. So, the work they calculate is the work done by the electric forces. But your problem statement is apparently asking for the work required by an external agent, like yourself, to rotate the dipole. To hold the dipole at some angle, you would need to apply a torque that is equal but opposite to the torque due to the electric forces. If you rotate the dipole at a steady rate, your torque is still equal and opposite to the torque due to the electric forces.
Thank you so much. Now it makes sense!
 

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