Calculation of leptonic decay widths

  • Thread starter Thread starter luis_m
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Calculation Decay
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of leptonic decay widths for mesons, specifically focusing on the ρ and ω mesons as described in Halzen & Martin, problem 2.25. Participants are evaluating the expectation values of the charge operator using the wavefunctions of the quark-antiquark pairs involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to evaluate the expectation value of the charge operator for each meson and the implications of squaring these values. There is confusion regarding the correct method of combining contributions from different processes and the resulting ratios of decay widths.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the correct approach to squaring the contributions and calculating the decay widths separately for positive and negative leptons. There is an ongoing exploration of the conceptual understanding of the charge operator's expectation value and its implications for the decay width ratios.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the evaluation of expectation values and the proper treatment of different decay processes, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the underlying physics. The discussion reflects the constraints of homework rules and the need for clarity in the evaluation process.

luis_m
Messages
3
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



Halzen & Martin, problem 2.25


Homework Equations



The ρ and ω wavefunctions are u[itex]\overline{u}[/itex]-d[itex]\overline{d}[/itex] and u[itex]\overline{u}[/itex]+d[itex]\overline{d}[/itex] except for a normalization factor.

The Attempt at a Solution



In this problem one has to evaluate the expectation value of the charge operator for each of the mesons listed using their quarks wavefunctions and then square them but I get the same value of that expectation value for both ρ and ω so their squares will never be in the ratio 9:1.

Any ideas of what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
You have to add the individual contributions and square the sum, not the other way round. This should give a ratio of 3:1 for the sum (as 2/3+1/3 != 2/3-1/3) and 9:1 for its square.
 
Thank you for your reply, mfb.

I appreciate the point that one has to square afterwards.

I think that my problem lies in the evaluation of the expectation value of the charge operator for each meson. What I'm doing for the ρ meson, for instance, is

[itex]\langle u \overline{u}-d \overline{d}|e_1+e_2|u \overline{u}-d \overline{d} \rangle=\frac{2}{3}-\frac{1}{3}-\frac{2}{3}+\frac{1}{3}=0[/itex],

where [itex]e_1[/itex] and [itex]e_2[/itex] represent the charge operators for each of the quark/antiquarks.

Obviously conceptually there is something wrong but I'm not sure what.

Thank you for your attention.
 
u can go to d + positive lepton only, u-bar can go to d-bar + negative lepton only - they are two different processes and do not add.
 
I do not quite understand your reply.

So, what I'm doing for calculating the expectation value of [itex]e_1[/itex], for the sake of the argument, is

[itex]\langle u\overline{u}-d\overline{d} | e_1|u\overline{u}-d\overline{d}\rangle=\langle u\overline{u}|e_1|u\overline{u}\rangle + \langle d\overline{d}|e_1|d\overline{d}\rangle = \frac{2}{3}-\frac{1}{3}=\frac{1}{3}[/itex]

and analogously for [itex]e_2[/itex].
 
Calculate the decay widths for positive and negative leptons separately - they are two different processes, the amplitudes do not add.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
6K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
8K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K