Calculations about Bicycle Helmets

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculations related to bicycle helmets, focusing on how they protect users during accidents. Participants explore various concepts such as energy, momentum, impulse, and the properties of materials used in helmets, particularly energy-absorbing foam. The conversation seeks to connect theoretical physics concepts to practical applications in helmet safety.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant is unsure about which calculations to include in their report on bicycle helmets, specifically how to relate physics concepts like energy, momentum, and harmonic motion to helmet safety.
  • Another participant suggests looking into the concept of impulse and how it relates to the forces experienced during an impact.
  • There are mentions of resources that provide information on helmet testing, including impact energy graphs and standards for helmet performance.
  • A participant proposes a formula for calculating impulse based on the mass of the head and initial and final velocities, questioning how to find relevant numerical data for these calculations.
  • Some participants express difficulty in finding specific calculations or data related to energy-absorbing foam and its effectiveness in helmets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relevance of concepts like impulse and energy in the context of bicycle helmets, but there is no consensus on specific calculations or data sources. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to incorporate calculations into the report.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various standards and testing methods for helmets, but there is uncertainty about how to translate this information into specific calculations. Limitations include a lack of clear numerical data and the challenge of connecting theoretical concepts to practical applications.

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I am doing a report on Bicycle Helmets and it's supposed to include calculations of some kind but as I am looking around and writing about it I'm not too sure what would be the best kinds of calculations to put into this that won't sound out of place. The report needs to tell about how it protects us from harm in an accident and connect it's intended uses to the units I have been working on (which are energy, harmonic motion, momentum, and gravitational fields).
I have found out that there is foam in the helmet that will crunch under force is this something I could work with? Where would be the best place to start?


Thanks for your help
 
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kittyNoel said:
I am doing a report on Bicycle Helmets and it's supposed to include calculations of some kind but as I am looking around and writing about it I'm not too sure what would be the best kinds of calculations to put into this that won't sound out of place. The report needs to tell about how it protects us from harm in an accident and connect it's intended uses to the units I have been working on (which are energy, harmonic motion, momentum, and gravitational fields).
I have found out that there is foam in the helmet that will crunch under force is this something I could work with? Where would be the best place to start?


Thanks for your help

I googled bicycle helmet testing tutorial, and got some good hits. The first one on the list looks to be the definitive source of information. You are correct that force and momentum come into play. Also look into the term "impulse" -- that should also be part of the calculations.

http://www.bhsi.org/

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Ya I have looked at that site its got some good information but I didn't see any real calculation's thanks for having a look on Google for me though.
 
kittyNoel said:
Ya I have looked at that site its got some good information but I didn't see any real calculation's thanks for having a look on Google for me though.

Well, they at least show impact energy graphs for good helmets versus no/bad helmets. That's pretty quantitative. And the links in this paragraph from the site seem to be good ones to follow:

http://www.bhsi.org/general.htm

A typical standard specifies impact tests, strap tests, characteristics of materials to be used, required coverage, labeling and other requirements. Some have tests to simulate low temperature performance, hot performance, wet performance and sunlight ageing. Test equipment is described as well as the severity of the testing. For a look at a complete helmet standard, check out the Snell Memorial Foundation site, where their standards are all available. Or you can read the US CPSC bicycle helmet standard, probably the most-used standard in the world. For a look at a point-by-point comparison of bicycle helmet standards, check out our short comparison or our more detailed long comparison.

Have you followed those links, or re-googled with my search terms to see what other pages are available?
 
i've looked around there site a far bit, I'm looking into impulse now and trying to think of a way to connect it all with numbers. I looked at a bunch of stuff on the standards and I am still not really sure what to say exactly as showing some calculations...
 
kittyNoel said:
i've looked around there site a far bit, I'm looking into impulse now and trying to think of a way to connect it all with numbers. I looked at a bunch of stuff on the standards and I am still not really sure what to say exactly as showing some calculations...

Also google energy absorbing foam calculations...
 
Does this make sense?

The impulse of your head hiting the ground without a helmit would be
J = mass of head * intial velocity - mass of head * final velocity
the final velocity in this case would be 0 since it just comes to an abrupt stop.

Where as if you place a helmet inbetween on your head first you have:
J = mass of head * intial velocity - mass of head * final velocity
but the final velocity will be less because the helmit slowed you down.

If that works where would I find any kind of numbers to put into this?
I tried to look up energy absorbing foam calculations but I can't find anything that I understand.
 

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