Calculus Integration from -10 to 0 Yields a Strange Result

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The discussion revolves around a definite integral calculation in calculus, specifically integrating the function \(x^3 + 2\) from -10 to 0. The original poster expresses confusion over differing results obtained from manual calculation and a calculator.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to integrate the function and questions the validity of their result compared to a calculator's output. Some participants point out a potential error in the calculation of \((-10)^4\), while others suggest reconsidering the interpretation of negative values in the context of definite integrals.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's confusion, providing insights into the calculation error and discussing the implications of negative results in integration. The original poster acknowledges the mistake and indicates a shift in understanding, though the discussion remains open-ended regarding the interpretation of negative areas.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses uncertainty about whether to consider the absolute value of the integral result, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the properties of definite integrals and areas under curves.

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Calculus Integration from -10 to 0 Yields a Strange Result [RESOLVED]

As part of a far greater enquiry, I found myself integrating:

\int^{0}_{-10}x^3+2dx

So, I began integrating the x^3+2 component, yielding the result of:

[\frac{x^4}{4}+2x]^{0}_{-10}

Which can then be set out as a subtraction, by:

[\frac{0^4}{4}+2(0)]-[\frac{-10^4}{4}+2(-10)]

The left term of the subtraction results in zero, whereas the right results in -2520, thus yielding the overall answer of:

0--2520=0+2520=2520

However, a most curious thing occurs, when I integrate the same definite integral on my calculator -- I get a different answer:

-2480

Not only can an area not be negative, but it defies my previous answer. So, now I have been lead to no other choice, but to ask you all for help, as to seeing where I went wrong.

Thankyou in advance, mes amis.

NOTE: I have a strong feeling that the mistake lies in either my own fault, or in my own lack of knowledge.
 
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(-10)4 ≠-104
 
oay said:
(-10)4 ≠-104

Ah bon!

But my problem still stands, in that the result is that of a negative value -- should I just ignore the negative sign, and conclude that I must calculate the absolute value of integrals like this in future?

EDIT: To treat the integral maybe, as so:

|(\int^{0}_{-10}x^3+2dx)|
 
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MarcAReed said:
Ah bon!

But my problem still stands,
no, it does not.
 
Dickfore said:
no, it does not.

You're very correct in your declarative statement -- I was a fool in not noticing that the value is negative because it is bellow y=0. I now, shall have to re-think my entire enquiry.

Thankyou, mes amis.

The issue is now resolved.
 

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