Calculus: Limits Homework - Find f'(x) & Why Wrong?

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative f'(x) of the function f(x) = (4x + 4) / (x^2 + 4) using calculus techniques, specifically the quotient rule. Participants are examining the correctness of their calculations and the notation used in their expressions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the quotient rule and express confusion over the correctness of their answers. There is a focus on the importance of proper notation and the potential impact of formatting on the evaluation of their solutions.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the clarity of expressions and the potential for misinterpretation due to formatting issues. There is a recognition of the challenges associated with using the quotient rule, and alternative approaches are suggested, such as rewriting the function to facilitate the use of product and chain rules.

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Participants mention a scoring system that may penalize answers not presented in a specific format, raising questions about the reliability of such evaluations. There is also an acknowledgment of the common mistakes that can occur when notations are unclear.

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Homework Statement


Find f ' (x) if f(x) = 4x + 4 / x2 + 4

Homework Equations


I used the mnemonic "lo dhi - hidlo / (lo)^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I got -4x^2 +16-8x / (x^2+4)^2
but it's telling me I'm wrong? Why? I computed it again but I still got the same answer.
 
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Ris Valdez said:

Homework Statement


Find f ' (x) if f(x) = 4x + 4 / x2 + 4

Homework Equations


I used the mnemonic "lo dhi - hidlo / (lo)^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I got -4x^2 +16-8x / (x^2+4)^2
but it's telling me I'm wrong? Why? I computed it again but I still got the same answer.

If you're doing calculus, you need to be able to write your expressions correctly. Please put brackets where they are required. It's impossible to know what expressions you are actually dealing with here.
 
PeroK said:
If you're doing calculus, you need to be able to write your expressions correctly. Please put brackets where they are required. It's impossible to know what expressions you are actually dealing with here.
Sorry!

Problem: find f ' (x) if f(x) = (4x + 4) / (x^2 + 4)

My answer (which was marked wrong by wiley): (-4x^2 + 16 - 8x) / [(x^2 + 4) ^2]

Is that good enough?
 
Ris Valdez said:
Sorry!

Problem: find f ' (x) if f(x) = (4x + 4) / (x^2 + 4)

My answer (which was marked wrong by wiley): (-4x^2 + 16 - 8x) / [(x^2 + 4) ^2]

Is that good enough?

Your answer looks correct to me.
 
At first I got a different answer, it was because I didn't put brackets around the second term. It's quite easy to make that mistake, so I'll bet Wiley wanted the 8x to be positive (which wouldn't be correct).
 
Who is this "Wiley" person and how did he or she mark your answer incorrect? If you are using some "mechanical" scoring, those things are notorious for marking wrong anything that is not in exactly the form it wants.
 
The quotient rule is quite ugly to use in general (which is what you have used to find the answer).

It is actually much easier to re-write the expression as:

$$f(x) = \frac{4x + 4}{x^2 + 4} = (4x + 4)(x^2 + 4)^{-1}$$

This allows you to take advantage of the product and chain rules, and usually you will be able to find the derivatives of quotients much faster:

$$f(x) = \frac{4x + 4}{x^2 + 4} = (4x + 4)(x^2 + 4)^{-1} = (4)(x^2 + 4)^{-1} - (4x + 4)(x^2 + 4)^{-2}(2x)$$
 

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