Calculus problem about population count

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This discussion revolves around a calculus problem related to the tag and recapture method used for estimating animal populations. The original poster presents a scenario involving captured, tagged, and recaptured animals, seeking clarification on specific parts of the problem, particularly parts c and d.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the total population and the rate of change of the population based on given values. They express confusion regarding the interpretation of results for parts c and d, particularly concerning the meaning of negative values and the implications of changes in the sample size.

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Some participants provide guidance on evaluating the derivatives and clarify the adjustments needed for parts c and d. There is an exploration of the implications of negative derivatives, indicating a decline in population estimates. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to understand the mathematical relationships involved.

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Participants are discussing the implications of the tag and recapture method, including assumptions about the population dynamics and the interpretation of the results in the context of calculus. There is a focus on understanding the mathematical expressions and their relevance to the problem at hand.

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Calculus question about tag and recapture?
Here is the problem, i tried to do most of it but don't understand what its asking on c and d.
Tag and recapture is used to estimate populations of animals in the wild. First, sample of animals are captured, number=n. They are tagged and released back into the wild. Sometime later, another sample of animals are captured, number=s. Of the s animals in the second sample t are found to be tagged. The estimate of total animal N is ofund from N/n=s/t.
Supposed n=100, s=60, t=15. In the second sample 1/4 of the animals were tagged.
a) what is the total animal population based on these results.
i got 400
b) what is dN/dt of n=100 s=60 t=15
i got -26.67 idk what the negative is saying. i said N=ns/t and dN/dt= -st/t^2 i hope its right.
c) what is the differential change in N if one more animal had been captured in the second sample and it was found to be tagged. express your answer in whole animals. I don't really understand the equation so i don't know what to do.
i just substitued the 100 for n and 61 for s and 16 for t for the dN/dt= -st/t^2 equation and got -23.83
d) what is the the differential change in N if one more animal had been captured in the second sample and it was not found to be tagged. This is almost the same as c so i don't know.
Please help me atleast understand what c and d is asking. and how to start it.
 
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munkhuu1 said:

Homework Statement


Calculus question about tag and recapture?
Here is the problem, i tried to do most of it but don't understand what its asking on c and d.
Tag and recapture is used to estimate populations of animals in the wild. First, sample of animals are captured, number=n. They are tagged and released back into the wild. Sometime later, another sample of animals are captured, number=s. Of the s animals in the second sample t are found to be tagged. The estimate of total animal N is ofund from N/n=s/t.
Supposed n=100, s=60, t=15. In the second sample 1/4 of the animals were tagged.
a) what is the total animal population based on these results.
i got 400
Yes, that is correct.

b) what is dN/dt of n=100 s=60 t=15
i got -26.67 idk what the negative is saying. i said N=ns/t and dN/dt= -st/t^2 i hope its right.
You mean, I think, dN/dt= -sn/t^2. Now, evaluate that at n=100, s= 60, t= 15.

c) what is the differential change in N if one more animal had been captured in the second sample and it was found to be tagged. express your answer in whole animals. I don't really understand the equation so i don't know what to do.
i just substitued the 100 for n and 61 for s and 16 for t for the dN/dt= -st/t^2 equation and got -23.83
"s" was the number of animals in the second saple and t was the number tagged.
"if one more animal had been captured in the second sample and it was found to be tagged"
So replace s with s+ 1 and t with t+ 1. That is, s= 61 and t= 16, just as you say.

d) what is the the differential change in N if one more animal had been captured in the second sample and it was not found to be tagged. This is almost the same as c so i don't know.
Yes, it is the same. Now s= s+1= 61 but t remains 15.

Please help me atleast understand what c and d is asking. and how to start it.
 
thank you very much, but just few questions. Why is the answer for c and d are negative? and when it says express your answer in whole animals, i subtract 23.83 from 26.67 and get 2.84. Is the answer 2 or 3?
 
(c) and (d) ask for derivatives- the rate at which the populations are changing. If those derivatives are negative, it means the populations are declining. "2.84" is closer to 2 than to three so would be rounded up to 3.
 

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