Can 1 1/4 NPT Thread Hold 10,000 PSI?

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The discussion revolves around the ability of a 1 1/4 NPT thread to withstand a pressure of 10,000 PSI. Participants explore the implications of thread design, fitting standards, and material considerations in relation to high-pressure applications.

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  • One participant suggests that a 1 1/4 NPT thread will hold 10,000 PSI without needing calculations, though this is presented as a personal opinion.
  • Another participant clarifies that the pressure rating of a fitting is determined by its overall dimensions rather than just the thread, referencing ASME B16.11 standards.
  • A participant notes that the pressure rating of the pipe is equivalent to that of the thread for NPT threads.
  • Concerns are raised about derating threaded pipes due to material removal from the threads, which could affect their ability to resist stress.
  • One participant mentions applying a safety factor of 1.5 to pressure-rated components, indicating a cautious approach to pressure applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of NPT threads for high-pressure applications, with some asserting confidence in their capability while others highlight potential limitations and the need for caution.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of industry practices regarding derating threaded pipes and the importance of wall tolerance in pressure rating calculations, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Individuals involved in engineering, plumbing, or industries dealing with high-pressure systems may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi Guys,
My friend is asking me to do the calculation for NPT thread. He is asking if 1 1/4 NPT thread is able to hold 10 000Psi pressure acting on it.
In my opinion there is no need to do the calculation for the thread. Of course it will hold it.
Don't quote me on this but I think that there is no difference in the way how low and high pressure npt threads are cut. High pressure fittings are more bulky due to pressure.
What are your thoughts?
 
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NPT generally refers to the US style tapered thread. There is a European counterpart with both tapered and straight thread design. I presume you mean the US type.

In general, the fitting isn't limited by the thread, it is limited by the overall dimensions of the fitting. Pipe fittings can be made to almost any standard including one that the supplier comes up with, so for any pipe thread fitting you need to verify the pressure rating with the supplier or to a recognized standard. The US standard that would generally cover these is ASME B16.11. That standard states that a class 6000 threaded fitting is equal to a Sched. XXS pipe in the size given. So for a 1-1/4", Class 6000 fitting built to ASME B16.11, the fitting pressure rating is equal to a 1-1/4" pipe, schedule XXS. Depending on material, it could have a pressure rating of 10,000 psi, but you would have to check. Note it is also a function of the temperature the fitting will be operated at.
 
Hi Thanks,
That makes sense. Pressure rating of the pipe = pressure rating of the thread when it comes to NPT threads.
 
Some people/companies/industries will derate a pipe with a threaded end because the threads have removed material which would otherwise be used to resist hoop and axial stress. I don't know how common that is throughout industry, but our company does that. In fact, our company doesn't allow pipe less than sched 80 to be threaded. Thinner walled pipe must be welded. Note also that the piping codes require that you take wall tolerance into account when determining pressure rating.
 
Yeah those scheduled pipes are not accurate but we always apply 1.5 safety factor to anything that is under pressure.
 

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