Can a great PGRE make up for otherwise mediocre stats?

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The discussion centers on the relevance of the Physics Graduate Record Examination (PGRE) in graduate school admissions. Opinions are divided, with some asserting that the PGRE is largely ignored by admissions committees, while others believe it plays a significant role. It is noted that candidates with strong overall applications but poor PGRE scores are common, whereas the reverse is less frequent. A high PGRE score, such as 850+, may enhance an application, but it cannot compensate for a mediocre overall profile, such as a 3.6 GPA, average letters of recommendation, and no publications. The conversation emphasizes that admissions committees evaluate applications holistically rather than using a point system, although some committees may employ a ranking system to streamline the process. Ultimately, to gain admission to top-tier programs, applicants need to excel across all areas of their application, as deficiencies in one area are difficult to overcome.
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I've heard mixed opinions regarding the importance of the PGRE. I heard from some that the PGRE has no relevance at all, as some profs on the admissions committee don't even LOOK at it. However, I've of course heard from others that its very important

I've heard plenty of people with great stats but a poor PGRE, but not really the other way around. Which is, would having a great PGRE score make up for an otherwise mediocre application? For example, getting an PGRE 850+, with otherwise mediocre stats such as 3.6 gpa, avg LORs, avg general GRE, no publications, top 5 state school?
 
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A high GRE score will help.

The idea that you can "make up for" some other area of the application makes it sound like there is some sort of point system. That's not the case. The committee looks at the applications and discusses them.
 
A high GRE score will help, but there is no way that your performance on a 3 hour test can make up for your performance in a 4 year undergraduate program.

(Generally speaking... I wouldn't call 3.6 terrible by any means, it's just not top of the class.)
 
Since I was hoping to get admitted by the top 10 schools, I'm sure a 3.6 doesn't look great, so that's why I hoped a great PGRE could make up for that
 
Top 10 school applicants will have good PGREs as well as strong GPAs.
 
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A high GRE score will help.

The idea that you can "make up for" some other area of the application makes it sound like there is some sort of point system. That's not the case. The committee looks at the applications and discusses them.

When I was on a committee, we actually DID have a point system formula (which I couldn't divulge the "formula" now even if I wanted to, seeing as this was about 5 years ago). Three committee members reviewed each application and also put in a readers' scores that were factored into the formula. After people were "ranked" by the system, we started at the top looking at providing support, etc. The process therefore went quickly until we started to look at the cutoff point (where some small adjustments to the ranking were very occasionally made depending on research area, etc.)... but generally a firm cutoff was set.

That being said... even for schools with point-system per-say, the systems will vary by school, so a precise answer to "can I get in" can never be made... especially since it also definitely depends on who else applies to that school that year.

That also being said, I generally agree that to be admitted to a top ten school you need to have a great application in all areas. You generally can't "make up" for deficiencies in the application when you're talking about these programs.
 
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