Can a Metal Box Effectively Shield a Sensitive Magnetic Instrument?

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The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of different materials, particularly metals and soft iron, in shielding a sensitive magnetic instrument from external magnetic fields. Participants explore the properties of materials with high permeability and conductivity in relation to magnetic flux and shielding effectiveness.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants question the implications of using materials with high permeability versus high conductivity for magnetic shielding. There is discussion about how magnetic flux behaves in these materials and whether soft iron can effectively redirect magnetic lines of force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into how magnetic flux is redirected in materials like soft iron, while others are seeking clarification on the concepts presented. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between magnetic permeability and shielding effectiveness, with no clear consensus yet.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and implications of magnetic permeability and the behavior of magnetic fields in different materials. There is mention of the need for visual representations to aid understanding, indicating that some participants may be working with incomplete information or assumptions.

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1)A sensitive magnetic instrument can be shielded very effectively from outside fields by placing it inside a box of :
a)teak wood
b)plastic material
c)soft iron of high permeability
d)a metal of high of conductivity
The electric lines of force cannot penetrate a closed metal box. But I don’t know about magnetic lines of forces. Can someone clear my doubt? The answer would be either {c} or (d).
 
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What can you say about the magnetic flux in a substance with a high permeability when compared to air?
 
Hootenanny said:
What can you say about the magnetic flux in a substance with a high permeability when compared to air?


In a substance with high permeability the magnetic flux will be high. So do u mean that soft iron cannot be used as its permeability is high?
 
Amith2006 said:
In a substance with high permeability the magnetic flux will be high. So do u mean that soft iron cannot be used as its permeability is high?
Quite the reverse actually. The magnetic flux will be 'redirected' into the soft iron rather than the air and therefore the flux will be 'deflected' around whatever is inside the box. Does that make sense?
 
Hootenanny said:
Quite the reverse actually. The magnetic flux will be 'redirected' into the soft iron rather than the air and therefore the flux will be 'deflected' around whatever is inside the box. Does that make sense?
I didn't understand entirely what u said. With whatever I have understood, I have the drawn the lines of forces that would exist inside the soft iron box. Is it right?
 

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Amith2006 said:
I didn't understand entirely what u said. With whatever I have understood, I have the drawn the lines of forces that would exist inside the soft iron box. Is it right?
Good first try, but you need to show a finite thickness to the box, and show how the external field lines get concentrated inside the walls of the box, thus bypassing the volume inside the box. Give it another shot and I'll approve the pending attachment as soon as I can.
 
Amith2006 said:
I didn't understand entirely what u said. With whatever I have understood, I have the drawn the lines of forces that would exist inside the soft iron box. Is it right?
Not entirely the magnetic flux should not extend inside the cavity in the box, just in the material of the soft iron core itself as in this image;

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Taken from http://www.tpub.com/

Think about how the magnetic permittivity relates to the magnitude of flux through an object.

Edit: Guess berkeman beat me to it. Does mentorship come will free typing lessons? :-p
 
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I have understood now. Thanks.
 
Hootenanny said:
Edit: Guess berkeman beat me to it. Does mentorship come will free typing lessons? :-p
I only beat you because you were taking the time to find a nice figure for the explanation. I looked briefly and gave up. :blushing:
 

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