Can a Michelson Interferometer Detect Gravitational Waves on a Small Scale?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the feasibility of detecting gravitational waves (GWs) using a Michelson Interferometer at a project level, focusing on smaller-scale apparatus compared to LIGO. Participants explore potential methods for demonstrating the effects of gravitational waves or analogous phenomena, including the use of sound waves and computer simulations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on proving the presence of gravitational waves using a Michelson Interferometer, expressing concerns about the size of the apparatus.
  • Another participant questions the terminology, asking if "GW" refers to gravity waves and asserts that no one has ever detected gravity waves.
  • A participant clarifies that they mean gravitational waves, describing their characteristics and acknowledging the difficulty of direct detection in a project setting.
  • Suggestions are made to use sound waves as an analogy to demonstrate fringe shifts, with questions about the feasibility of using tuning forks and the required frequencies.
  • One participant proposes using a fluid's refractive index to simulate changes in distance in one arm of the interferometer, suggesting modulation of parameters like temperature or pressure, while noting the speculative nature of this idea.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the possibility of detecting gravitational waves at a small scale and whether analogies can effectively demonstrate the concept. There is no consensus on a definitive method for achieving this within the constraints of a project.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in proving gravitational wave presence and the challenges of simulating spacetime distortion. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the practicality of proposed methods and the assumptions underlying them.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and enthusiasts interested in gravitational waves, interferometry, and experimental physics may find this discussion relevant for project ideas and conceptual understanding.

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I am doing a project on GW Detection , pls tell me if there is anyway I can prove GW presence at project level (as in apparatus shouldn't be too buly or big as like LIGO or somehting ) ...I have built a Michelson Interferometer , but how do I prove there is a distortion in spacetime using tht??..pls pls help , if there is no way i can detect GW , can I do something by changin the path lengths of the light tht travels in the apparatus , using sound waves??...hw do i do it??...can I use tuning forks to show fringe shifts ??..what frequency forks i need then/??..pls help ..Otherwise i am goin nowhere with this ... :confused:
 
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By GW, do you mean Gravity Wave?

You are, of course, aware that NO ONE has EVER detected a gravity wave?
 
gravitational wave I mean ... a wave of abt 4 km amplitude , makes 10^-12 m distortion in spacetime..I know its impossible to prove it in my project ..but can I use some sort of analogy , maybe use sound waves to show fringe shifts ??...I am nt interested in direct detection , my project is abt Apparatus which can possibly detect GW , LIGO is basically Interferometer , but ofcourse larger than my apparatus , what can I do/??...shud i use comp. simulations ??...to show how this thing happens , and manually move the mirrors in interferometer to show what can be possible..??
 
Dr.Brain said:
gravitational wave I mean ... a wave of abt 4 km amplitude , makes 10^-12 m distortion in spacetime..I know its impossible to prove it in my project ..but can I use some sort of analogy , maybe use sound waves to show fringe shifts ??...I am nt interested in direct detection , my project is abt Apparatus which can possibly detect GW , LIGO is basically Interferometer , but ofcourse larger than my apparatus , what can I do/??...shud i use comp. simulations ??...to show how this thing happens , and manually move the mirrors in interferometer to show what can be possible..??

:bugeye: It will be difficult to "bend spacetime" to mimick GW. What you would need is something that changes the distance over one arm of an interferrometer, without changing the actual positions of the mirrors and so on.

Mmm, maybe you could mimick that with the refractive index of some fluid! Maybe you could modulate a parameter (temperature, pressure...) of the fluid in one arm such as to obtain a similar effect as a genuine change of distance in spacetime. Mind you, I'm just chatting out of the back of my head here, didn't estimate anything.
 

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