Can a neutral atom be affected by magnetic field?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether a neutral atom can be affected by a magnetic field, particularly focusing on the conditions under which this may occur. Participants explore theoretical implications, specific examples, and the behavior of neutral atoms in magnetic fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if a moving, neutral atom like hydrogen would react to a magnetic field, emphasizing its chargeless nature.
  • Another participant asserts that neutral atoms can still have non-zero magnetic moments due to the orbital angular momentum and intrinsic spin of their constituent charged particles.
  • A participant queries whether an atom with a zero net magnetic moment would be unaffected by a magnetic field and whether such an atom is possible.
  • It is noted that un-ionized, unexcited Helium-4 has no magnetic moment, as its electrons are in the s-orbital and its spins are anti-parallel, suggesting it would not be affected by a magnetic field.
  • References are made to the Stern-Gerlach experiment, which involved neutral silver atoms, indicating that neutral atoms can exhibit interesting behaviors in magnetic fields.
  • One participant mentions that even Helium, despite having no magnetic moment, would show diamagnetic behavior in a magnetic field, implying some level of influence.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of the Lorentz force in relation to moving neutral atoms, prompting further inquiry into the implications of motion in magnetic fields.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of magnetic fields on neutral atoms, with some arguing that certain neutral atoms can be influenced while others question the conditions under which this occurs. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the general behavior of neutral atoms in magnetic fields.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the magnetic moments of different atoms and the conditions under which they may or may not be affected by magnetic fields. The discussion also touches on specific cases like Helium-4 and the implications of motion in magnetic fields, which remain open to interpretation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying atomic physics, magnetism, or the behavior of neutral particles in magnetic fields, as well as individuals exploring the theoretical aspects of atomic interactions with external forces.

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If we have a moving, neutral atom, say hydrogen, will it react to a magnetic field?
If yes, why?
If you ask why not, I argue that the atom as a whole is a chargeless entity.
 
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Yes. A group of charged particles with zero net charge can still have non-zero magnetic moments. The particles may have orbital angular momentum (such as the electron in hydrogen) or intrinsic spin, and these can all interact with magnetic fields.
 
So, if the atom had a zero net magnetic moment, then it wouldn't be affected right? And is such an atom possible?
 
s0ft said:
So, if the atom had a zero net magnetic moment, then it wouldn't be affected right?

Right.

And is such an atom possible?

Yes. un-ionized, unexcited Helium-4 has no magnetic moment: its electrons are both in the s-orbital (so no angular momentum) and the two electrons, two protons, and two neutrons are all respectively anti-parallel, so there is no total magnetic moment due to spin.
 
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LastOneStanding said:
Right.



Yes. un-ionized, unexcited Helium-4 has no magnetic moment: its electrons are both in the s-orbital (so no angular momentum) and the two electrons, two protons, and two neutrons are all respectively anti-parallel, so there is no total magnetic moment due to spin.

Even Helium will show diamagnetic behaviour in a magnetic field so it will be influenced.
 
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s0ft said:
If we have a moving, neutral atom, say hydrogen, will it react to a magnetic field?
If yes, why?
If you ask why not, I argue that the atom as a whole is a chargeless entity.

An external magnetic field will 'affect' the absorption lines of many neutral atoms. See Zeeman Effect.
 
What about Lorentz force, on a moving neutral atom?
 

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