Can a Perfect Vacuum be Created & Stretch Space? Answers Here!

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In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of pulling a piston along a closed pipe using a powerful engine and the limits and effects of doing so. It is determined that the force needed to overcome is only the air pressure on the outside of the piston and there is no limit to how far it can be pulled. Moving the piston does not stretch space, and the possibility of stretching space under certain conditions is uncertain.
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I have no qualifications in science but find it fascinating in general. Could anyone answer the following for me?

Imagine an immensely strong pipe closed at one end with an airtight piston pressed tightly against the closed end.

(a) Is it possible to pull the piston any distance along the pipe using a powerful engine?

(b) If so, is there a limit as to how far can it be pulled?

(c) Assuming a perfect vacuum is created, would moving the piston farther be stretching space?

(d) Is it possible to stretch space under any conditions?

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This is not such a special problem. Even if the piston and the bottom of the cylinder were a single piece (or welded together) you can break them apart. This is done routinely by the machines used to test tensile strength.
If you worry just about the pressure of air on the other side of the piston, you only need a force equal to whatever air pressure force is on the piston.
How far does not matter, the force is the same.

There is nothing about "space stretching" in this.
 
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Here's something that may help you 'feel' how it'd be.

Imagine you take the same pipe+piston, only filled with air at normal atmospheric pressure, and submerge it 10 metres deep in water.
Since at that depth the pressure is equal to about twice the atmospheric pressure, the difference in pressures between outside and inside of the pipe would be 1 atm. I.e., the same difference as in the scenario you described, with a pipe with perfect vacuum inside and air outside.
That piston would be just as hard to pull 10 metres deep in water as it would be with perfect vacuum on the surface, and the pipe just as likely to collapse.

If you replaced the air inside with vacuum, and take the setup underwater, it'd require just twice the force from the previous case to move.
 
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richard hunter said:
(a) Is it possible to pull the piston any distance along the pipe using a powerful engine?

What force do you think has to be overcome? Typically it's only the air pressing on the outside of the piston (say about 15lbs per square inch).

(b) If so, is there a limit as to how far can it be pulled?

No. Except perhaps the size of the universe?

(c) Assuming a perfect vacuum is created, would moving the piston farther be stretching space?

No.

(d) Is it possible to stretch space under any conditions?

I don't think that's easy to answer. Really strange things happen near a black hole or when traveling close to the speed of light.
 

1. Can a perfect vacuum be created in a laboratory?

No, it is currently not possible to create a perfect vacuum in a laboratory. While scientists have been able to create very low pressure environments, there will always be some particles present, even if they are at extremely low levels.

2. Can a perfect vacuum stretch space?

Yes, a perfect vacuum has the ability to stretch space. This is because a perfect vacuum has no particles or matter present to cause any resistance or interference with the stretching of space.

3. Why is it difficult to create a perfect vacuum?

Creating a perfect vacuum is difficult because it requires the removal of all matter and particles from a given space. This is extremely challenging to achieve, as there are always trace amounts of particles present in any environment.

4. What is the practical application of creating a perfect vacuum?

Creating a perfect vacuum has many practical applications in various fields, including in scientific research, space exploration, and industrial processes. For example, a perfect vacuum is often used in semiconductor manufacturing to prevent contamination during production.

5. Can a perfect vacuum exist in nature?

No, it is believed that a perfect vacuum cannot exist in nature. Even in the vast expanse of outer space, there are always particles present, albeit at very low levels. This is due to the presence of cosmic rays and other forms of radiation that constantly fill the universe.

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