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Is it possible to explain how a photon can be a particle yet have no mass? I think I need a scientific clarification either of what a particle is or what mass is.
jfraze said:To define further... Can a photon be "at rest"?
jfraze said:To define further... Can a photon be "at rest"? If a photon could be trapped and held I think that means it would no longer have momentum. Without momentum would it be anything measurable?
Dickfore said:But, these interacting photons become quasiparticles (cavity modes, plasmon polaritons) of a different kind and acquire (rest) mass.
Dickfore said:Furthermore, in condensed matter, lorerentz invariance looses its meaning
And #2 as well. To see why (waveguide) modes acquire rest mass, consider the wave equation, and assume that the transversal cordinate dependence separates from the longitudinal coordinate dependence:PeterDonis said:If you're talking about my #1, yes, I didn't mean to imply that all photons in cavities or other such setups still have zero rest mass. But I can imagine an idealized container where they would.
I'm not sure I would say it "loses its meaning", but I agree things get a lot more complicated.
Dickfore said:It means that the presence of a medium introduces a preferred reference frame (that where the medium is at rest). We no longer require Lorentz invariant expressions as dispersion relations.
Dickfore said:To see why (waveguide) modes acquire rest mass
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As for the propagation of em waves in a dielectric
PeterDonis said:At this level of modeling, though, we aren't really talking about "photons", are we? (Unless you use "photon" to mean "geometric optics approximation", I guess.) At the quantum level, are these (or the Hamiltonians corresponding to them) the equations that get quantized to determine the spectrum of photon modes?
Dickfore said:I solved the wave equation with a prizmoidal waveguide, and the boundary conditions for the "transversal part" gave rise to discrete eigenvalues \lambda_n.
PeterDonis said:So the answer is yes, these *are* the equations that get quantized to determine the spectrum of photon modes. Got it, thanks!