Can an Hourglass on a Balance Scale Create Equilibrium?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a balance scale when one of two identical hourglasses is flipped to allow sand to flow. Participants explore the implications of the hourglass's operation on the balance, considering both theoretical and experimental perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the scale will initially rise briefly before tilting towards the flipped hourglass due to the weightlessness of the falling sand and the impact force when it hits the base.
  • Another participant proposes that the running hourglass would be lighter at any moment because grains of sand would be airborne, contributing to a temporary reduction in weight on that side.
  • A participant references data from an actual experiment involving an hourglass on a scale, though details of the data are not provided.

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Participants express differing views on the behavior of the balance scale, with no consensus reached on the outcome of the hourglass operation.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the behavior of the sand and the mechanics of the balance scale remain unaddressed, and the implications of the impact force are not fully explored.

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Here's my question:

Two spent hourglasses that weigh exactly the same on a balance scale. You flip one over so that it's running. What happens to the balance?
 
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First, welcome to PF!

As to the question, what do you think will happen and why?
 
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I think the scale tilts to the flipped slide after first very briefly rising while the sand begins to descend. While the sand is falling it’s weightless( causing it to slightly rise), but upon impacting the base the falling sand would impart its weight plus an additional impact force from the momentum change and start tilting in the opposite direction. That’s my guess.
 
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Before I look at the spoiler, I want to say that I think the one that is running would be lighter, because at any given moment, there would be grains of sand in the air. I guess that's the point of the first part of Erobz's answer. I'm not smart enough to grasp the second part of that answer.
 
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Thank you very much, bob012345, for the definitive answer!
 
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DrDavy said:
Thank you very much, bob012345, for the definitive answer!
You're welcome. You might enjoy setting up a 'kitchen' experiment to play with this situation.
 

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