Can B x A Form a Group with This Operation?

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The problem involves groups A and B, with a homomorphism theta mapping elements of A to automorphisms of B. The task is to show that the set B x A, equipped with a specific binary operation, satisfies the group axioms, including the existence of an identity element, inverses, and closure.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss how to demonstrate the existence of an identity element and inverses within the group structure. There are inquiries about the nature of the operation and the definition of Aut(B). Some suggest writing explicit formulas for the identity and inverses, while others express uncertainty about the uniqueness of the identity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various participants exploring different aspects of the group axioms. Some have provided guidance on proving closure and associativity, while others are attempting to formulate the identity and inverse elements. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive lines of inquiry are being pursued.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of group theory, specifically in relation to the operation defined on B x A. There is a focus on ensuring that the binary operation adheres to group axioms, with some participants questioning assumptions about the identity and inverses.

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Homework Statement


Let A, B be groups and theta: A --> Aut(B) a homomorphism. For a in A denote theta(a)= theta_a in Aut(B). Equip the product set B x A={(b,a): a in A, b in B} with the binary operation (b,a)(b',a')= (b'',a'') where a''=aa' and b''=b(theta_a{b')).

Show that this binary operation induces a group structure on the set B x A (ie it satisfies the group axioms).


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How do I show that there exists inverses, an identity element and that it is closed? I tried first for identity:

WTS there exists e such that ae=a=ea. Then I don't know where to go from there. It seems like I am just assuming that there exists e such that aa'=a(a-inverse)=e

Then from there I can show that there exists an inverse right?
 
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What is aut(B)?
 
Aut(B) is the set of all automorphisms of G. It is a subgroup of A(G), the set of all 1-1 and onto mappings of G onto itself.
 
fk378 said:
How do I show that there exists inverses, an identity element
With this sort of problem it's usually easiest to simply write down an explicit formula for them. The formula usually isn't too hard to guess, and when it's not obvious, it can usually be determined by solving the appropriate equation.

and that it is closed?
Again, direct calculation -- this one is usually trivial.
 
That's where I am stuck--writing the formula. Is the one I wrote with my question completely off?
 
Am I supposed to prove there exists an identity or just that the identity is unique?
 
All you need to prove are the group axioms, which are (besides that the binary operation is closed) associativity and the existence of an identity and inverses. From those you can prove that the identity and inverses are unique.

Closure is easy: if (b, a) and (b', a') are in B x A, then show that (b, a)(b', a') is also in B x A by direct calculation. Proving associativity is usually tedious but straightforward; remember that θ and θa are homomorphisms.

For the identity and inverses you can either guess, or write an equation. You could guess (correctly) that the identity is (e, e) (with, of course, the first e being the identity of B and the second from A) and prove that it works, or you could suppose, say, that (be, ae) is the identity, write (b, a)(be, ae) = (b, a), calculate the product, and find ae and be. (Don't forget to prove that the multiplication works the other way, i.e. (be, ae)(b, a) = (b, a).) For inverses, in this case the obvious guess at the inverse of (b, a) doesn't work, but you can still find (b, a)-1 by letting, say, (b, a)-1 = (b*, a*) and writing (b, a)(b*, a*) = (e, e).
 

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