Can Calculating Cumulative Binomial Probabilities Be Simplified?

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The discussion focuses on calculating cumulative binomial probabilities for weld failures, specifically determining the probability of fewer than four base metal failures out of a sample of 20, where 15% of failures occur in the base metal. The user, Brandon, inquires about a more efficient method than calculating individual probabilities for 0 to 3 failures. The response confirms that while the direct calculation is straightforward, a recursive approach can expedite the process using the formula P(k) = {n \choose k} p^k (1-p)^{n-k} and the ratio r(k) = (n-k)/(k+1) * (p/(1-p)).

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Homework Statement



Of all the weld failures in a certain assembly, 85%
of them occur in the weld metal itself, and the remaining
15% occur in the base metal. A sample of
20 weld failures is examined.

a. What is the probability that fewer than four of
them are base metal failures?

Is there a faster way to solve rather than doing p(x=0)+p(x=1)+p(x=2)+p(x=3)?

Thanks

Brandon


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Mdhiggenz said:

Homework Statement



Of all the weld failures in a certain assembly, 85%
of them occur in the weld metal itself, and the remaining
15% occur in the base metal. A sample of
20 weld failures is examined.

a. What is the probability that fewer than four of
them are base metal failures?

Is there a faster way to solve rather than doing p(x=0)+p(x=1)+p(x=2)+p(x=3)?

Thanks

Brandon


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


No, the way you said is about as short as possible. You can sometines speed things up a bit by doing it recursively: if
[tex]P(k) = {n \choose k} p^k (1-p)^{n-k}[/tex]
we have
[tex]\frac{P(k+1)}{P(k)} = r(k) \equiv \frac{n-k}{k+1} \frac{p}{1-p},[/tex]
so if we start from ##P(0) = (1-p)^n##, we can get ##P(1) = r(0) P(0),## ##P(2) = r(1) P(1),## etc.
 

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