Can Diffeomorphisms be Represented by Matrices and Used in Image Analysis?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the representation of diffeomorphisms, particularly whether they can be represented by matrices and applied in image analysis. Participants explore the mathematical properties of diffeomorphisms, their linearity, and implications for transformations in the context of image processing.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if a diffeomorphic mapping can be represented via a matrix and seeks clarification on parameterization.
  • Another participant asserts that a diffeomorphism cannot be represented by a matrix because it is not a linear transformation.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that a diffeomorphism can be represented as a linear transformation of tangent spaces, providing the idea of an infinite collection of matrices at each point of the manifold.
  • Further elaboration includes a specific case in ##\mathbb{R}^{n}##, discussing the total derivative and its relationship to the Jacobian matrix, indicating that while the function itself may not be linear, its derivative can be represented as a matrix.
  • A participant expresses a desire to apply diffeomorphisms in image analysis, specifically for mapping pixel positions, but later retracts this request, indicating uncertainty about their understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the representation of diffeomorphisms by matrices, with some asserting it is not possible while others provide conditions under which it may be represented. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about linearity and the specific conditions under which diffeomorphisms may be represented. The applicability of these concepts to image analysis is also not fully explored.

garrus
Messages
16
Reaction score
0
I'm a complete rookie here, and i'd like some help.
For starters , can a diffeomorphic mapping be represented via a matrix , like say a transformation?
If so, how would it be parameterised?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
No you cannot represent it by a matrix, since it is not a linear transformation.
 
A diffeomorphism is a linear transformation of all the tangent spaces, so you can give the infinite collection of matrices

∂Xi/∂Yj

at each point of the manifold
 
Hi garrus. dx already answered the crux of your question but let's specialize to the case of ##\mathbb{R}^{n}##. Let ##U\subseteq \mathbb{R}^{n}## be open, ##p\in U##, and ##F:U\rightarrow \mathbb{R}^{m}## a map differentiable at ##p##. Recall that ##F## is differentiable at ##p## if there exists a linear map ##DF(p)## such that ##\lim _{v\rightarrow 0}\frac{|F(p + v) - F(p) - DF(p)v|}{|v|} = 0##. As you may remember, we call ##DF(p)## the total derivative of ##F## at ##p##. Now, as dx noted we may not be able to represent ##F## itself as a matrix if it isn't itself linear on ##\mathbb{R}^{n}## (in which case it agrees with its total derivative) but ##DF(p)## is linear and one can show that the standard matrix representation of ##DF(p)## is given by ##[DF(p)]_{S} = (\frac{\partial F^{j}}{\partial x^{i}}(p))##. This is none other than the Jacobian matrix. You can think of the linear map ##DF(p)## as being the best linear approximation of ##F## in a neighborhood of ##p##. As dx noted above, you can then develop such a formalism on arbitrary smooth manifolds.
 
Thanks for your responses, but i think I'm way out of my league :/
I want to apply a diffeomorphism in image analysis and I'm looking for a way to build a function to map pixel positions.

edit: disregard that.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
5K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
5K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
7K
  • · Replies 73 ·
3
Replies
73
Views
12K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
5K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K