Can I Calculate a Power Triangle with Given Voltage and Current?

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The discussion centers on calculating a power triangle using a given voltage of v=25sin(wt+0.2rads) and a current of i=15sin(wt-0.5rads). The user initially calculates the apparent power as 375 Volt-Amps and seeks to determine true power using the formula P=VIcosϕ. A response clarifies that the instantaneous power can be expressed as P(t) = VrmsIrms(cosφ + cos2ωt), leading to the average power formula Pav = VrmsIrmscosφ. It is noted that calculating impedance is unnecessary for this process. The conversation emphasizes the relationship between voltage, current, and power in AC circuits.
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This is an enquiry into whether something is possible, so the numbers might be rubbish to work with.

If I apply a voltage of v=25sin(wt+0.2rads) to a circuit, with a resultant current of i=15sin(wt-0.5rads), can I work out all three sides of a power triangle? I've been working on it for about an hour but with no such luck.

This is what I have done so far:

VRMS*IRMS = 25*15 = 375 Volt-Amps

So long as that is correct, my guess would be that I have to find the True Power, perhaps using the formula P=VIcosϕ, and then I can use Pythagorus theorem to find the volt-amps reactive (var), which would be with the formula var2=VA2-W2. If that's not right, I assume I would have to work backwards in order to calculate an impedance?

Any help with this would be much appreciated. I think that it is possible using only a source voltage and resultant current, but am obviously to new to the subject to properly hack it out.
 

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Hi AngusBurger! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have an omega: ω :wink:)

The instantaneous power is P(t) = V(t)I(t).

If you multiply it out, and use a bit of trig, you find that P(t) = VrmsIrms(cosφ + cos2ωt). :wink:

(So the average power is Pav = VrmsIrmscosφ.)

You don't need to find the impedance for this.
 
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