Can I Separate a Constant and Variable Expression in Exponential Manipulation?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the manipulation of the expression eab, where a is a constant and b is a variable, particularly in the context of integrating an expression involving this term. The original poster seeks to separate the constant from the variable to facilitate integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the possibility of applying exponent rules to separate the constant and variable within the exponential expression. Questions arise regarding the applicability of specific exponent rules and the nature of the integral expression involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the manipulation of the expression eab and its implications for integration. Some participants provide suggestions for substitutions to simplify the integral expression, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

Contextual Notes

There is a specific integral expression mentioned, v3/(ev(h/kT) - 1), which adds complexity to the problem. The need to transform this expression into a more manageable form for integration is a central focus of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


I am working on a problem, and there is a small step I need help on:

I have the expression eab, where a is a constant, and b is a variable. I need to separate a and b so I can pull out the expression b from an integral expression. Is there any exponent law or manipulation I can do algebraically that will allow me to get separate the constant a expression from the variable b expression?

Homework Equations


Rules of exponents, algebraic manipulations.


The Attempt at a Solution


There isn't any simple rule (i.e. xmxn = xm+n) that I can use to separate the two expression. I've tried moving the expression around, to no avail. Any help is appreciated!
 
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winterwind said:

The Attempt at a Solution


(i.e. xmxn = xm+n) !

Why can't you use that? What is the integral expression you are talking about?
 
rock.freak667 said:
Why can't you use that? What is the integral expression you are talking about?

Unfortunately, that doesn't work, since the expression is eab. I would only be able to use that rule if it were eaeb. The constant a is multiplied to the variable b in the same exponential.

The integral expression is: v3/[ev(h/kT) -1] where v is the variable, and (h/kT) is constant. Essentially, I need to get the expression in the form x3/(ex-1) , where then I can use a table of integrals to evaluate the integral. Is there a simple way to get the above expression into that form? In this case, v = x, so I am close, but there is the (h/kT) constant term in the exponential that still needs to be taken care of.
 
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You're overthinking it. Use the substitution x=\nu(h/kT).
 
eab = (ea)b and ea is just a constant.

Then ∫bx dx = bx/ln(b) + C
 
vela said:
You're overthinking it. Use the substitution x=\nu(h/kT).

Thanks! This is it.
 

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