Can Integration be Simplified through Factorisation?

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The discussion focuses on simplifying integration through factorization, specifically using the substitution \( k^3 = \rho^2 \) to solve a quadratic equation. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly substituting variables, such as expressing \( k \) in terms of \( p \) as \( k = p^{\frac{3}{2}} \). The conversation highlights the necessity of evaluating bounds during integration to avoid extraneous solutions. Ultimately, understanding the relationship between \( k \) and \( p \) is crucial for arriving at the correct answer.

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Just do the substitution.

in part b, let k^3 = \rho ^2

Solve the resulting quadratic.
 
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k^3 = p^2 implies k^(3/2) = p.
 
I see now, so silly. Thanks
 
Still cannot get answer.

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You've gotten "p", now you have to find "k".
 
How is that going to lead me to the answer? :redface:
If I substitute "p" back to "k". I don't see how I can get 0.44
 
What is an expression for k in terms of p?

And you'll get an extraneous solution, but which one is right will be fairly clear when you get them. Look at bounds of your integration. Then look at the k's you get.
 
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r maths said:
k=p^{\frac{3}{2}}
so
p= k^{\frac{3}{2}}
Do you see an error here?
 
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I hope...


Mystic998 said:
And you'll get an extraneous solution, but which one is right will be fairly clear when you get them. Look at bounds of your integration. Then look at the k's you get.

I don't quite understand, how I'm I to know 0.29 instead of 1.71 was to be used?
 
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What is 1.79^(2/3)? Why is it that k clearly can't take on that value?
 
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Because of: http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6338/graph012xj9.png ?[/URL]
 
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You've pretty much got the right idea. When you split the integral from 0 to 1 into an integral from 0 to k and an integral from k to 1, you tacitly assumed that k was between 0 and 1. Otherwise, what you did wouldn't be valid.
 
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Ok, thanks Mystic998 and everyone else who helped out.
 

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