The discussion centers on the feasibility of intelligent life evolving in the cosmos without the concept of time measurement, specifically clocks. Participants explore whether civilizations could comprehend the universe using only length and distance as measures. It is suggested that clocks merely serve as tools for measuring change, and that comprehension of time may not be essential for survival or intelligence. The conversation touches on the idea that while time is a fundamental aspect of the universe, the necessity of a formal understanding of time may vary among intelligent species. Some argue that without a concept of time, labeling a species as intelligent becomes problematic, while others propose that the direction and magnitude of time may not be constant. The debate raises questions about the nature of intelligence and awareness in relation to time, with examples from Earth’s history, such as alligators and ferns, illustrating that life can exist without a definitive concept of time.