Can light travel faster than itself?

[jonpaulv]

So you move faster then it. Sorry this got into speed.

 

[Drakkith]

Move me ten miles an hour inside of a subway train moving 60. I then am going 70. So move something inside of light. Find something that moves inside of light.

Light is an electromagnetic wave, an oscillation of the electric and magnetic fields. There is nothing physically moving, nor can you be "inside of light".

 

[Drakkith]

Jonpaulv, see the following articles, they may help you understand some of the basics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light

 

[jonpaulv]

Move the waves of light faster or have something that travels at its own speed that is attached to light. Making it move faster then the speed of light. So thinkof light as the train and as this sub level matter entity move along the light waves. thus using the light as a boost. I mean this is sci fi but still tangible if discovered.

 

[jonpaulv]

“We choose to examine a phenomenon which is impossible, absolutely impossible, to explain in any classical way, and which has in it the heart of quantum mechanics.” – Prof. Richard Feynman

 

[jonpaulv]

there’s a little thing called wave-particle duality, that shows by experimentation (meaning it’s not just some crazy idea, it can be observed) that light is both a wave and a particle. Not that sometimes it’s a wave and sometimes it’s a particle, but in fact that light is both a wave and a particle simultaneously.

 

[jonpaulv]

something can move through the particles and thus is moving faster then the light.

 

[jonpaulv]

Do you know if the vertical movement of the waves is created at a faster pace then the horizontal?

 

[jonpaulv]

Create an atom that travels through the emr of light. using the emr as let's say its land or train and then have it run on the emr. Thus traveling faster then the emr. But you would have to have the finishing point of the emr because at some point the train ie light emr would end and it would catch up to the end of it. But if we can do that with preexisting light then we can use it to travel. travel through the lights and bounce from one area to the next utilizing preexisting light.

 

[Drakkith]

Move the waves of light faster or have something that travels at its own speed that is attached to light. Making it move faster then the speed of light. So thinkof light as the train and as this sub level matter entity move along the light waves. thus using the light as a boost. I mean this is sci fi but still tangible if discovered.

None of this is possible. It isn't even sci-fi, it's been disproved by General Relativity and experiments involving GR. It doesn't even make any sense in regards to basic physics.

there’s a little thing called wave-particle duality, that shows by experimentation (meaning it’s not just some crazy idea, it can be observed) that light is both a wave and a particle. Not that sometimes it’s a wave and sometimes it’s a particle, but in fact that light is both a wave and a particle simultaneously.

Yes, I am well aware of the duality of light and matter. And no, it isn't both simultaneously, it is a particle or a wave depending on how you observe it.

something can move through the particles and thus is moving faster then the light.

No, it is not.

Do you know if the vertical movement of the waves is created at a faster pace then the horizontal?

There is no verticle and horizontal movement of the waves. The electric and magnetic fields are oscillating, not moving up and down. They have vectors, but this is not the same as saying the field is moving up and down or side to side.

Jonpaulv, ALL of this is explained if you read the articles I linked and then go to the articles on Special Relativity, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics. Please, do not post any more questions until you have read over those thoroughly enough to at least understand the most basic items, such as the speed of light being the absolute speed limit in the universe.

 

[Drakkith]

Create an atom that travels through the emr of light. using the emr as let's say its land or train and then have it run on the emr. Thus traveling faster then the emr. But you would have to have the finishing point of the emr because at some point the train ie light emr would end and it would catch up to the end of it. But if we can do that with preexisting light then we can use it to travel. travel through the lights and bounce from one area to the next utilizing preexisting light.

This is not possible. Light and matter do NOT interact this way.
See the article on Special Relativity on wikipedia for more on the speed of light.