Can Mathematical Models Explain Scenes from The Day the Earth Stood Still?

[renormalize]

Lot of actors in it too when they were young. James Whitmore. Fess Parker, went from there to Wyoming, I think, to fight big bears as "Daniel Boone". James Arness, FBI man in the movie, moved up to Dodge City and became federal Marshall Dillon in "Gunsmoke". Think he stayed there so long because he was sweet on Miss Kitty.

Don't forget a young Leonard Nimoy in a bit part as a staff sergeant:

 

[DaveC426913]

Don't forget a young Leonard Nimoy in a bit part as a staff sergeant:

A common misattribution. That's actually Spock, in a scene that got cut out of "Tomorrow is Yesterday".

 

[difalcojr]

Before he was in Vulcan, I guess. Look at whom he had to report to next: the future Federation Starship Captain himself. How did he get to be captain after being in a mental institution in the Twilight Zone?!

 

[difalcojr]

Here's Gort and Robby the Robot together. Buddies.



Patricia Neal telling Gort what to do in the 1951 movie. Gnut in the short story, Gort in the movie, Klaatu's the man. I'll get it right. Gort was being nice then.



From the 2008 remake. And Keanu Reeves thought the Matrix was strange! Gort goes wild. Bad Gort.

 

[difalcojr]

Don't forget a young Leonard Nimoy in a bit part as a staff sergeant:
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From a young staff sergeant to a starfleet commander and science officer. He ended up a philantropist too, and left a legacy in the new Nimoy theatre in Los Angeles which just opened. Supposed to have nods to Star Trek throughout. Already booked until next June. Only 200 seats.

https://cap.ucla.edu/ucla-nimoy-theater

https://cap.ucla.edu/calendar

 

[PeroK]

"Them" was on free TV last night! I heard those lines you quoted exact!

They've remained embedded in my memory for nearly 50 years!

 

[pinball1970]

The film on the whole was very good but it did not really scare me as much as a few others. I feel a thread coming on.

 

[gleem]

Get ready for yet another remake of this movie. Chris Pratt has signed on for the leading role of Klaatu.

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/chris-pratt-day-earth-stood.html

 

[difalcojr]

Hope they stick closer to the original short story, but doubt that this will happen. Green colored, smooth, impervious metal. The original, short story would make an excellent movie, still. With a few modern touches.

 

[difalcojr]

The film on the whole was very good but it did not really scare me as much as a few others. I feel a thread coming on.

Me neither. Not like the others mentioned. Just a little scary. Did get me to thinking of other old, scary SF movies, though, and scary TV episodes, and scary SF short stories, and scary SF books too. Yikes! Lot of good recommendations, links, and funny memories shared here. Educational. Thanks to you and all who've posted.

 

[difalcojr]

Free TV showed original Day... last night. Klaatu's closing message to humanity: let AI keep the peace! Trust in AI. Yikes. Gort, sergeant-at-arms, still looked very big and very formidable, too close to very dangerous for me. Sure, just trust AI. Wonder what the message of the remake will be for the future path of humanity?

Also on free TV was the 1986 remake of invaders from Mars. Not as scary as the original. King Kong and Godzilla originals were kinda scary when young. This one, though, the Harryhausen predecessor to Japan's Godzilla by 16 months, was very scary, I thought, when young and small. Realistic looking.

 

[difalcojr]

Wow, I never noticed all the old movie trailers online before. For thread completion then, here's Them that was earlier discussed. The trailer itself is pretty scary, actually. See what trouble nukes make!

 

[pinball1970]

This model diagram is possible when index0/index1=index1/index2=radius2/radius1 for the model's variables. 30 degree wave into a sphere. Reminded me of something out of that old science fiction movie, The Day the Earth Stood Still.
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It reminds me of this a little bit

 

[difalcojr]

Where is that from?

 

[pinball1970]

Where is that from?

https://science.nasa.gov/resource/pioneer-plaque/

 

[difalcojr]

From above, "The golden plaque was the brainchild of Carl Sagan who wanted any alien civilization who might encounter the craft to know who made it and how to contact them."

Yeah, those look like good directions, all right. Just follow the arrow. Earth moved out way to the side of Saturn. No wonder they can't find us. And what is that? The monolith from 2001: Space Odyssey? And a thin lens and its focus point with two naked folks in front? Waving? Wow, if I was an alien, I'd say these earthians are pretty hokey and immodest too. A golden plaque? On taxpayer money? Give me the golden fleece instead. Sagan was OK though.

 

[pinball1970]

From above, "The golden plaque was the brainchild of Carl Sagan who wanted any alien civilization who might encounter the craft to know who made it and how to contact them."

Yeah, those look like good directions, all right. Just follow the arrow. Earth moved out way to the side of Saturn. No wonder they can't find us. And what is that? The monolith from 2001: Space Odyssey? And a thin lens and its focus point with two naked folks in front? Waving? Wow, if I was an alien, I'd say these earthians are pretty hokey and immodest too. A golden plaque? On taxpayer money? Give me the golden fleece instead. Sagan was OK though.

The guys can help me out here but a lot of images and languages were put on some sort of record. Who we are, what we do and survive as a species.
Also how we use mathematics but almost in a Rosseta stone sort of way so they can relate to how we formalize counting and operations.
Very symbolic so pictures tell the story too. The aliens would need eyes though, of a sort to see it.
I'll post the link I was looking at this afternoon. All the images are listed.

 

[difalcojr]

That sounds good. I will stay serious, then. Would indeed be interesting to see how Sagan symbolized it and scribed it. Back when. What that point source of light or dumbell at the top means.

 

[pinball1970]

That sounds good. I will stay serious, then. Would indeed be interesting to see how Sagan symbolized it and scribed it. Back when. What that point source of light or dumbell at the top means.

The dumb bell is Hydrogen

Here is some explanation https://www.space.com/34223-voyager-golden-record-space-messages-in-pictures.html

 

[Janus]

From above, "The golden plaque was the brainchild of Carl Sagan who wanted any alien civilization who might encounter the craft to know who made it and how to contact them."

Yeah, those look like good directions, all right. Just follow the arrow. Earth moved out way to the side of Saturn. No wonder they can't find us. And what is that? The monolith from 2001: Space Odyssey? And a thin lens and its focus point with two naked folks in front? Waving? Wow, if I was an alien, I'd say these earthians are pretty hokey and immodest too. A golden plaque? On taxpayer money? Give me the golden fleece instead. Sagan was OK though.

The actual directions to find is in the pattern with the radiating lines. It is a "pulsar" map. Each line represetns a pulsar visible from Earth, with it's relative distance indicated by the length of the line. Each line also has a pattern on it that gives the pulse rate of each pulsar. The point being that there would be only one place where pulsars with those pulse rates would be seen in those relative directions and distances. In addition, since pulsars also have a predictable decay rate of their spin, it also give "when" the probe was launched.
Modesty is relative. That being said, there were people that complained about NASA "sending pornography" into space, I mean "What would the neighbors think?"

 

[difalcojr]

Thanks. Well, they sent it anyway.
Pulsars, huh? Sagan was brilliant, brought astronomy to the everyperson at that time. Popularized it, I remember. Wish the recordings and other pics and diagrams of those NASA records were available online for free perusal. Instead of $99. Think I know most all the animal sounds, though, anyway. Remember vaguely they had a hard time admitting rock and roll music. Chuck Berry song is on the record, I think I remember.

 

[gmax137]

Chuck Berry song is on the record, I think I remember.

I wanted them to put the Stones, "20,000 Light Years From Home" on there, but nobody listens to me.

EDIT: Sorry, it is "2000 Light Years..." I always get this wrong, probably too much Jules Verne as a kid...

 

[difalcojr]

Couldn't agree with you more. More appropriate song, 2,000 light years from home. What's an order of magnitude anyway, when you're as far from home as Voyager? Stones should have campaigned for this song:

 

[DaveC426913]

Where is that from?

This is a smack in the face. As if I don't feel old enough already.

 

[difalcojr]

I wanted them to put the Stones, "20,000 Light Years From Home" on there, but nobody listens to me.

EDIT: Sorry, it is "2000 Light Years..." I always get this wrong, probably too much Jules Verne as a kid...

Or The "Beast from 20,000 Fathoms" at the top of the page.

Could any kid could get too much of Jules Verne? Or H.G. Wells? Or, later ones, Asimov, Bradbury, Clarke, Heinlein, Niven, etc? And then so many others newer than these older ones. SF is the most futuristic and one of the most exciting genres of fiction. Fiction that indeed often comes true. You may not have gotten too much of it, possibly, I think.

 

[DaveC426913]

Could any kid could get too much of Jules Verne?

Kid?

I've got his works on my Kobo eReader right now.

 

[Janus]

Thanks. Well, they sent it anyway.
Pulsars, huh? Sagan was brilliant, brought astronomy to the everyperson at that time. Popularized it, I remember. Wish the recordings and other pics and diagrams of those NASA records were available online for free perusal. Instead of $99. Think I know most all the animal sounds, though, anyway. Remember vaguely they had a hard time admitting rock and roll music. Chuck Berry song is on the record, I think I remember.

I have a book, "Murmurs of Earth" copyright 1978, that is about the golden record. It has all the images sent and lists of both the greetings and music sent. It cost me $7.95 at the time. Chuck Berry's "Johnny B. Goode" was included.
The images on the record cover differ from those on the Pioneer plaques shown above:

It still has the pulsar map, and the "dumbbell" ( a representation of a hydrogen molecule), but the rest of the image are instructions on how to play the record, culminating in what the first image should look like if done right.

 

[difalcojr]

It reminds me of this a little bit

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Was this diagram from the book too? One of the plaques?

 

[Janus]

Was this diagram from the book too? One of the plaques?

This is what was sent with the Pioneer 10 &11 probes launched in 1972-73. Voyager 1 & 2 were launched in 1977

 

[difalcojr]

This is what was sent with the Pioneer 10 &11 probes launched in 1972-73. Voyager 1 & 2 were launched in 1977

Here's the explanation from online. Explanatory. Pulsar map is pretty amazing.