Can P(x) be factored into irreducible polynomials over Z_5?

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The discussion revolves around factoring the polynomial P(x) = x^3 + 2x + 3 into irreducible polynomials over the field Z_5. Participants explore the properties of polynomials in modular arithmetic and the criteria for irreducibility.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial factorization attempts and the irreducibility of the resulting polynomials. Questions arise regarding the irreducibility of x+3 and x^2-3x+1, as well as the validity of the final product of polynomials.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the irreducibility of the polynomials obtained from the factorization. Some participants have provided guidance on checking the correctness of the factorization by multiplying the polynomials and reducing coefficients mod 5. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final answer yet.

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Participants note the challenges of performing polynomial division under modulo conditions and the potential for confusion in calculations. The discussion reflects the complexity of working with irreducible polynomials in modular arithmetic.

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Homework Statement



Write P(x) = x^3+2x+3 as the product of Irreducible Polynomials over Z_5

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Polynomial division

The Attempt at a Solution



I start out by taking out a factor of x+3

That is

x+3 \div x^3+2x+3


I get P(x) = x^2-3x+1 which has zero remainder mod 5.


Is the product of irreducible polynomial (x+3) (x^2-3x+1)


or do I reduce P(x) = x^2-3x+1 by taking out a factor of x+1 ie


x+1 \div x^2-3x+1


I know the irreducible polynomials coefficients should add up to the original degree ,So I have one with degree 1 and the second with degree 2.

am I on the right track?
 
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Well, a product of irreducible polynomials requires all your polynomials to be irreducible.

You're on the right track, the question now is: is x+3 irreducible, and is x2-3x+1 irreducible?
 
I evaluated

x+1 \div x^2-3x+1

which is P(X)= x-4 zero remainder mod 5

So I have three irreducible Polynomials whose degrees add to three ie


(x+3)(x+1)(x-4)

Hows that look
 
Is there a way to check that my answer is right?
 
beetle2 said:
Is there a way to check that my answer is right?

Multiply your product out and reduce the coefficients mod 5.
 
I multiply it out and get

x^3-13x-12 which is x^3-3x-2mod 5 so I'm doing something wrong.
 
beetle2 said:
I multiply it out and get

x^3-13x-12 which is x^3-3x-2mod 5 so I'm doing something wrong.

Don't forget 2=(-3) and 3=(-2) mod 5.
 
I think I need some more practice, It can get confusing just doing ordinary polynomial division without having modulo as well
x^3+2x+3

thanks for your help
 

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