Can Recoil on a Wheel Replicate Regular Guns?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of using recoil from a bullet to operate a wheel mechanism in firearms, exploring whether this could replicate the functionality of traditional guns. The scope includes theoretical considerations of firearm design and reloading mechanisms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the recoil from a bullet could exert force on a wheel in a manner that replicates the operation of a regular gun.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on what is meant by "exert a force on a wheel" and requests more specifics about the design being discussed.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the concept may resemble older designs like semi-automatic revolvers, while also mentioning modern innovations such as electronic triggering and electromagnetic firing systems.
  • Concerns are raised about a previously discussed concept that required a jet engine and was deemed impractical due to structural integrity issues.
  • One participant clarifies that their inquiry is focused on the reloading process rather than the performance of the shot, proposing a design where recoil would cause a wheel to spin.
  • A participant references a specific design called DREAD, linking to a prior discussion that may provide context for the current inquiry.
  • Another participant describes a practical electric gun design involving a rotor and ball bearings, noting intrinsic problems related to projectile shape and aiming limitations, while comparing it to the DREAD concept.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility and practicality of using recoil to operate a wheel mechanism in firearms, with no consensus reached on the validity of the proposed designs or concepts.

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There are references to previous discussions that may contain unresolved assumptions or limitations regarding the designs mentioned, particularly concerning the DREAD concept and its operational viability.

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I am trying to remember the rumor I heard about a new gun shooting design in one of my ap physics class discussions, do you guys now of any new breakthrough designs?

anyway i think it has to do with the reloading mechanism. (I know I have asked a question of this type before, so if i sound stupid, please bear with me and at least just answer my question) If the recoil of a shooting bullet were to exert force on a wheel, would the result be EXACTLY the same as a regular gun? thanks for reading
 
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What do you mean by "exert a force on a wheel"? What wheel are you talking about? You will have to be more specific!
 
Recoil exerting force on a wheel? Sounds like a just an old semi-automatic revolver. A newer idea is something like electronic triggering (think the product is called metal storm), or electromagnetic firing (like the railguns intended for Navy vessels).
 
Actually, I'm rather worried that he's referring to some stupid thing that we spent 20 pages debunking in one of the engineering threads. I can't even remember what it's called, but we determined that it would have to be powered by a jet engine and would tear itself to pieces within a couple of seconds.
 
to cesiumfrog: Well, I am not asking about the actual performance of the shot, just the reloading process. If you think of the revolver as perpendicular (bullet--reloader wheel), I am trying to ask about a parallel design so that the bullet recoil is oriented on the finned wheel in such a way that its recoil will spin it.

to Danger: jet engine? tear itself to pieces? eh? It was actually related to a question I had in this same section, Classical Physics. What is your tennis court quote referencing?
 
A very practical "electric gun" I've seen involved a rotor sandwiched between engraved tracks. Once it spins up, ball bearings introduced near the axis are flung out and hence fired forward. But the design has intrinsic problems: necessarilly spherical projectiles (the aerodynamics of which will limit accuracy) and an effective flywheel (difficulty reorientating a spinning gyroscope will further limit aiming). The DREAD thing looks similar at first glance.
 

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