Can Smart Technology Help Reduce Energy Waste in Homes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential for smart technology to reduce energy waste in homes, focusing on systems that can automatically turn off non-essential electrical appliances when the home is unoccupied. Participants explore various technical approaches, concerns, and existing solutions related to home automation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a system using a keyring device that disconnects from Wi-Fi to signal when occupants leave, suggesting it could control appliances via the fuse box.
  • Another participant cautions against turning off essential appliances like refrigerators and suggests exploring RFID technology for tracking occupants.
  • Some participants suggest using smartphones instead of a dedicated keyfob for tracking presence in the home.
  • A participant mentions existing home automation systems that can be managed via smartphone apps, providing a link to one such system.
  • Another participant expresses a preference for a simpler solution, such as a Bluetooth-enabled wall plug that turns off when the phone is out of range.
  • There are suggestions to research existing home automation products that might meet the project needs.
  • One participant reflects on the role of personal responsibility in energy use, questioning whether technology can effectively change behavior.
  • Concerns are raised about the energy consumption of home automation systems themselves, with an example of a light sensor that may use more energy than it saves.
  • Another participant shares personal findings from measuring the energy use of their outdoor lamp and sensor, indicating unexpected results.
  • A participant emphasizes the need for the proposed system to accommodate individual energy usage patterns within a household.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and implications of smart technology for energy management in homes. There is no consensus on the best approach or the effectiveness of such systems, and multiple competing ideas are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions, such as the need for careful consideration of which appliances to control and the potential energy costs of the automation systems themselves. There are also concerns about personal habits and responsibilities regarding energy use.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring home automation solutions, energy efficiency enthusiasts, and those involved in engineering or technology design related to smart home systems.

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Hello,
I'm working on a project to design a system that basically turns off all non essential electrical appliances in the home when it is not occupied. The idea is to reduce energy waste caused by lights, TV's computers etc being left on accidentally.

So far I'm thinking that each occupant within the house could carry a small keyring sized device, and basically whenever the keyring leaves the building the system will automatically turn off all non essential devices and appliances. My background is more mechanical engineering than electrical so I'm struggling to figure out technically how this would be achieved.

Would it be possible to have the "keyring" connect to a wifi network within the home, then whenever the connection is lost, it could be assumed that the occupant has left? Then have something wired up to the fuse box to actually turn off selected switches?

The solution doesn't need to be perfect, just functional.
Any input is greatly appreciated,
thanks.
 
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Be careful what you turn off -- You don't want to be turning off a refrigerator with perishable food inside it (obviously), and turning off power to a computer unexpectedly can have some bad side-effects.

Maybe have a look at RFID technology -- there may be a solution for tracking people in a home. I know they use something similar to that at a local hospital, to track nurses and docs on some of the patient wards. It's pretty awesome to be at the Charge Nurse station, and see where all of your resources are when you start needing to move people around to help with emergent situations.

At the local Underwriters Laboratories facility, employees badge in and out as they go through certain doors in the facility. There is overall software running that keeps track of the sections of the buildings were employees are, and that is used for example when a visitor arrives and the receptionist can tell right away where the employee is at UL to link them up with their visitor.

All of this is pretty invasive for normal home use, though. Consider instead just using the existing smartphone based Apps that control home functions (via home automation). What Apps have you looked at so far?
 
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Perhaps you could use their mobile phone and wifi instead of a special keyfob?
 
Well... I think you should start at small, and in a slightly different direction.

For example, my biggest concern is not the energy consumption, since everything is already built/bought to be efficient, silent and energy saving.
However, it's a daily worry after leaving for work if I pulled off the iron or not?... :nb)

So, if you can put together a simple wall plug (extender) which can sense the bluetooth of my phone and switching itself off if it is not in range, then I'll buy it. :partytime:
 
You should spend some tyime googling for info on existing home automation products because it would shock me if you couldn't find some that meet your needs.
 
What ever happened to parents telling and training their kids to turn off the lights, or TV, when not in the room, or to quit looking in the fridge over and over again, ( accidently? ). Or put on a sweater if you feel cold rather than turning up the heat.
Besides being an energy usage issue, it is also a safety issue to pull plugs on kitchen gear, such as toasters and the like, and checking the oven plates.
But kids grow up to be adults, who I guess are just plain lazy, and need energy consuming tech to play with, instead of using their own smarts.

And consumer choice of convenience lends to energy use, with "always on", clocks on every appliance, "standy mode". For some of these devices, the convenience costs up to 10% of energy consumption. Porch lights always on, coffee pot always brewing, etc. Stereo or TV on for the house pet.

Keep in mind that lights on in the home can prevent unwanted entry, as an individual who cases a house may assume that with a light on, someone is at home, and go to the next, so the device may have to be adaptable to situations.

I am not sure that another device will lead to the human actually being the one responsible for his/her own actions.

But then that is just me, and not the general state of the population.
But then again, I too am lazy, so the right tech may just suit my fancy..
 
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It's worth considering the energy needed by the home automation system...I have an outside light that is controlled by a light sensor so that it only comes on at night. Problem is the LED light is only a few Watts and the optical sensor appears to run hotter than the LED light! One day I must get my meter out and measure how much power it's dissipating.
 
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It's worth considering the energy needed by the home automation system...I have an outside light that is controlled by a light sensor so that it only comes on at night. Problem is the LED light is only a few Watts and the optical sensor appears to run hotter than the LED light! One day I must get my meter out and measure how much power it's dissipating.
Just did the experiment and calculations on my outdoor lamp and sensor.
Though, my lamp is motion activated, and I'm guessing it's only on about 1 hour per day.

I would have never guessed the conclusion.

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If you are willing to go to this extreme in our "consumption control" It would be well worth the investigation of smart technology.
My energy use is significantly different than my wife's use. If you were to challenge the use my wife has of the house that would not end well, lol. If one were to meet my energy goals that would be great. My assumption is that is that this system will be working within the confines of smart technology.
Allow time for tracking of personal patterns. Create space for the identification of individual patterns and optimization. If your proposed system creates a win for all parties involved I would assume a win in all uses. If there is a conflict I can guarantee a loose.
 

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